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Author Topic:   Separating belief in ET life from belief in UFOs
Izanagi
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Message 17 of 36 (529674)
10-10-2009 3:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Briterican
10-08-2009 6:13 PM


Ah, people from the stars...
Quite the contrary, I am confident the universe is teeming with life.
I concur. Also, alien life, especially intelligent life, would negate the many Christian's belief that life on Earth is special.
To my way of thinking, the idea that we, on this tiny speck of a world, would be visited by advanced extraterrestrial life, presumably for no purpose more nefarious than to watch our television and cuddle up to our politicians, is ludicrous.
I would also agree with this statement, provisionally. Since an alien intelligence would have likely developed under environmental pressures, the chance that any alien intelligence is benevolent is slim. More probable is that the alien intelligence would use their advanced weaponry to begin colonization of this new world with such obviously primitive beings. After all, how intelligent could the people on this planet be if some of them still believe that their planet is circled by the sun. Since this has not occurred, this is why all of you should not believe that an alien intelligence has visited your planet.
The provision is that humans might be considered something akin to chimps on tv, that is, entertainment or something to be studied. Perhaps aliens are right there on the moon peering through telescopes watching the wackiness that is humanity and laughing their asses off on the extraterrestrial version of couches or flying around drunk trying to see if they can scare the local population into believing something ridiculous, like crop circles are a message from ET or abducting humans in an attempt to answer questions that the alien inteligence may have about Life, the Universe, and Everything. But that's ridiculous.
And that's why you, gentle humans, must never believe that aliens are visiting earth and watching the planet.
Ever.

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Izanagi
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Message 29 of 36 (531180)
10-16-2009 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by New Cat's Eye
10-16-2009 11:38 AM


Re: Black whatsits
Remember the Great NJ UFO hoax of 2009? A bunch of people in Morris County saw bright lights on Jan 5 which they thought was a UFO. It turned out it was a social experiment concocted by two men who launched 5 flares attached to 5 helium balloons. The two men actually videotaped the whole "experiment" and you can watch it at the link I posted.
It might not be determinable, but to say that its unlikely that they were seeing an actual big black floating triangle in the sky is unreasonable. I think you have too much doubt in people.
Its almost as if you want to disbelieve that it could be there so you fall back on the default reason of "they must have been mistaken".
I think multiple independent and credible witnesses support the actual existence of the claimed object.
The thing is, like the two guys said, people see what they want to see. That's not to say the people who saw the black triangle were mistaken and didn't actually see anything. But people tend to jump to conclusions without knowing the facts based on what they want to have actually happened. It's a common occurrence and may have been beneficial to our survival in the days when our ancestors roamed the savannah and saw grass twitching.
In this day and age, however, we know that there are other possible explanations. Without knowing all the facts, we can't even know which was the real explanation. For all we know, it could have been a B2 bomber or the test flight of a new aircraft. Just don't expect the government to tell you.
Skepticism is usually a good choice when a person doesn't have all the information. Still, if there's no harm in believing something, then by all means believe in it.

It's just some things you never get over. That's just the way it is. You go on through... best as you can. - Matthew Scott
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Marge, just about everything is a sin. (holds up a Bible) Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom. - Reverend Lovejoy
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You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe. - Marcus Cole

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Izanagi
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Posts: 263
Joined: 09-15-2009


Message 32 of 36 (531199)
10-16-2009 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by New Cat's Eye
10-16-2009 12:36 PM


Re: Black whatsits
Certainly, I agree that it was likely the people saw something but what it was we can't be sure of. When multiple people see an object in the sky from different areas and describe it similarly, the likelihood it was a dream decreases.

It's just some things you never get over. That's just the way it is. You go on through... best as you can. - Matthew Scott
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Marge, just about everything is a sin. (holds up a Bible) Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom. - Reverend Lovejoy
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You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe. - Marcus Cole

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Izanagi
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Message 33 of 36 (531203)
10-16-2009 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by tuffers
10-16-2009 1:03 PM


Ask people to point to, say, Spain or Egypt on a globe and I guarantee most won't have a clue where they are - even if they've been there many times.
Haha, ask Americans to point to the US on a map and some won't be able to find it.

It's just some things you never get over. That's just the way it is. You go on through... best as you can. - Matthew Scott
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Marge, just about everything is a sin. (holds up a Bible) Y'ever sat down and read this thing? Technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom. - Reverend Lovejoy
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You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe. - Marcus Cole

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