Information Changes in DNA by logical Analysis

Not really. All you need to be able to do is order it from smaller to larger.Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

Pretend information has weight. I can put the three containers on a board with a fulcrum in the center and find the heaviest, lightest, and in-between. But I still have no idea how much each container weighs.All I need is a binary comparison that determines A is greater than, less than, or equal to B. I don't have to be able to assign a numeric amount to A and B to compare them.Similarly, determining whether or not does not necessarily require evaluating or Edited by Admin, : Latex rerendered.

I was just pointing out that "you must be able to assign a numeric value to information" is not necessarily true. If there exists a way of ordering information in the manner I "weighed" the information, then you can detect an increase or lack thereof in information. I don't know of a way to do this in the real world, but I also do not know that there is [b]no[b] way to do it. My lack of imagination is not evidence.So "you must be able to assign a numeric value to information" is not true a priori, it requires justification. Much better just to ask how to detect an increase in information, which covers all bases.

Yup. And we must consider as undemonstrated that information must be quantified to order it. We don't even know if information as any particular creationist conceives it can be ordered or quantified. All we can know is that, in order to meaningfully claim that some process has or has not increased information, that information must be quantified and/or ordered.That final step is, of course, the step that few creationists even attempt. And those that do attempt it unfailingly end up with someone else demonstrating a process that does increase that particular creationist's version of information.My only real point here is that "you must quantify information in order to claim it has or has not increased" is not true. "You must quantify or order information in order to claim it has or has not increased" is true.