Neanderthals

Coming back to Neanderthal's, what makes us so sure they were not just men with prominent foreheads ?
Afterall Aboriginees are human but we don't call them 'Neanderthals'. It is an unfortunate misconception that Neanderthals are portrayed as half man , half monkey. I simply think they were men, or 'human'. If I am totally wrong about this please tell me. Why aren't they human ?

'ok since you clearly aren't really understanding I will ask you another queston. Did God make ape men(there are ALOT more then Neanderthals) as a joke to confuse us?'Well, I have seen skeletons (or tiny parts) so far, of men and apes, what I havent seen is ape men.

Well I do not see transitions. You see them as transitions, I see them as apes. Show me 20 FULL skeletons of a complete and 100% ape man and even I will ask your question.

I have every right to discuss it, that is what the evc is for. Besides I am quite well informed about fossils. O.k I'm not a scientist ,but I doubt everyone here is.'Do your own research! you expect me to search the web Because you are to lazy?'Actually I kind of half knew the answer. I know you wont find them because they dont exist. One picture in the 'evolution of man' picture's evidence, was a pigs tooth. That just prooves humans mastery in taking giant guesses. So , where are the ape men that you say my God made ?
Personally I dont think there is evidence to say there is ape men, thats all.

Hi Asgara,
thanks for confirming my rights to babble about bull'.lol.That site is a good one, the Lucy pictures are interesting, although the lack of skeleton , (40% ) confirmed my suspicions, slightly. I think I will re-visit that sight in future, there certainly is a lot of finds (skulls), I must admitt, which neither cofirm or deny my thoughts. Interesting stuff though, maybe I am a bit lazy in searching,lol.

'Sorry if I am coming off harsh but I am tired of treating People like they are Babies.'Listen, there is no need to insult, you forget I am not an expert and I will always admitt that these are my own thoughts, and very likely to be wrong. I just enjoy quizzing and babbling.'I am a paleo Student'Good, I am not your enemy, there is no need to get frustrated, I am not the Almighty - take no offense, I'll concede, if your a student you probably know more than me, I will never argue with experts but my beliefs are my beliefs.

'maybe Mike can answer me on this as I have had a few discussions with him ) I believe that both sides can discuss these issues without resorting to censuring of opinion, no matter how much we may disagree about that opinion.'Absolutely I agree Asgara, and look what happens - you have provided a website, which I am open minded about and chuffed about. By the way look at your posts number compared to mine (we have been here the same amount of time)I'd be grateful if you post more, I think we are the only evo-creo who enjoy each others posts.[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 09-01-2003]

It's an apology accepted, I dont hold grudges, I myself have gotten frustrated in the past and I guess with hindsight , the better way to do it, is the stress free one. I often tell myself, 'okay leave it, its only their opinion it will only end in point scoring.'

'I don't know how much you may enjoy my posts to you, Mike'I like your posts also Schrafinator, I guess I was a bit quick to say we are the 'only ones' to enjoy each others posts.'Remember what I said about how you are special?'yes, likewise.lol.