EAM writes:
Well, this has nothing to do with the argument I made. You have now turned the main point from whether
God has any situation, where one may lie and it not be a sin, to my weaknesses. One really has nothing to
do with the other
This is not off subject but is really relevant to the subject at hand. My point is that even though you
know that lying is a sin, an infraction against your God, you would knowingly violate it premeditatively
before hand because of some other standard. That is my point. My question is WHY would you do
so.
because I would not want to see anyone die, that did not deserve death. But in that process I would not
lose my objectivity and delude myself into believing that Gods command was NOW somehow acceptable
along with my actions. When yopu start doing this, then any action becomes justifiable in our own
minds. I MIGHT do it due to a immediate reation, I might do it because I know God would not view my
entire life in that one instance. I might do it because my emotions took over at that moment and here I
dont mean to imply I wasnt in control. In it all the LYING does NOT become a MORALLY CORRECT THING,
because I or the situation dictate it as such
Yes I understand what you are saying but you are not listening to what I am saying. My issue is not
whether or not she would be punished it is why would lying to protect another human beings life be
considered wrong at all. That is my source of contention.
You wont take NO for an answer will you. It is wrong from a Biblical perspective because God has
designated as such AND AND AND he provides no addendums to that edict. if such things exist, atleast
in the scriptures, then simply set it out.
I know you dont believe it but there are PRINCIPLES in existence, that are even more important than life
itself. To save your childs life you would give up your life. the PRINCIPLE of LOVE and giving up YOUR
LIFE, is more important than YOUR LIFE itself.
You said you believe in capital punishment in some instances. Therefore, you must believe there is a
PRINCIPLE in existence that superceeds the life of the person, being put to death. Your Arch Nemesis,
has nailed you here.
Gods commands and principles often, not always, outweigh, even the reality of physical life itself and
the keeping or sustaining of that physical life
Therefore my conclusion is that lying is morally wrong to protect a life, because Gods commands
superceed life itself. However, as I have said many times, God is not unsympathetic to situations and our
ignorance. he has and does overlook our ignorance in disobedience to his commands. This is also
another of his PRINCIPLES, but it does not mean lying is not a sin. This is not to say the sin will go
unpunished, Christ has paid that, but it is stated simply to say that he has more than one or two virtues
or principles.
"every idol thought and word will brought into judgement"
Yet if one hypothetically never sinned at all except to lie to protect the life of another human being
from harm or death, that person would be doomed for eternity in hell because of this one charitable
action. That is the point I am making. Why would this action be considered wrong i.e. a sin at all.
true, but you would have to disregard everything else the scriptures has to say about God and what has been said in this connection, by myself
Of all the confiscated and ridiculous stories I have heard in my life, this one takes the cake. In essence you are saying that we should be happy that someone was murdered in our place, in essence he murdered someone else (or himself however you want to view it) to satisfy himself, and we should all join you in heaven for never ending worship this unforgiving brutal dictator for eternity while the rest of humanity is being tortured FOR ETERNITY IN A BURNING LAKE OF FIRE.
I am sorry but I will opt out of this delusional escapade. Have fun while we burn. Maybe I should make that into a t-shirt.
My mistake I thought we were speaking from a Biblical perspective about the Biblical God and his actions from the same source. if your contention is from outside that source, I cant help you, you will and can imagine anything you wish.
By all means "OPT AWAY"
See ya.
EAM
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