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Topic: An inconvenient truth.... or lie?
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 49 of 191 (538413)
12-06-2009 2:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by Meldinoor
12-06-2009 2:34 PM
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Re: Global warming is real!
Won't we instead be doing well to be off of "Muslim" and "communist" oil? According to a consertive I know personally (co-worker), there are quadrillions of gallons of oil, if not limitless, just waiting to be tapped into. However, the socialist regime is unwilling to "drill baby drill". The "eco-nerds" are too worried about "global warming" (replace those quotes with actual air/finger quotes). Hey, he listens to Glen Beck so I don't blame him.
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 58 of 191 (538449)
12-07-2009 6:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Buzsaw
12-07-2009 12:10 AM
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Re: Global warming is real!
at least Fox News covers all of the news Sure. The shit that they make up and feed you as news. Glen Beck ranting about the New World Order? Is THAT news? or is it opinion? Hannity does the same. They might report some news here and there, but it's mostly their contribed conspiracy theories. I hate to say it, but The Daily Show, a COMEDY SHOW, is more honest than the most watched news channel.
Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people -Carl Sagan
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 59 of 191 (538450)
12-07-2009 6:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Taz
12-07-2009 1:06 AM
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Here is why:
BuzSaw writes: Given the suspect email revelations of some major climate scientists which they have evidently purposely destroyed. When pressured for evidence, it almost always comes up as being deviantly "destroyed" by "them".
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 68 of 191 (538478)
12-07-2009 12:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 67 by Buzsaw
12-07-2009 12:30 PM
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Re: UN's Facility?
How did you come to this understanding? See this:
Professor Phil Jones, Director of the Climatic Research Unit: writes: The following email, which I can confirm is genuine, has caused a great deal of ill-informed comment, but has been taken completely out of context and I want to put the record straight. "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct +is 0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998." The first thing to point out is that this refers to one diagram - not a scientific paper - which was used in the World Meteorological Organisation's statement on the status of the global climate in 1999 (WMO-no.913). The diagram consisted of three curves showing 50-year average temperature variations for the last 1000 years. Each curve referred to a scientific paper and a key gives their details.
Climate records consist of actual temperature records from the mid-19th century and proxy data (tree rings, coral, ice cores, etc) which go back much further. The green curve on the diagram included proxy data up to 1960 but only actual temperatures from 1961 onwards. This is what is being discussed in the email. The word 'trick' was used here colloquially as in a clever thing to do. It is ludicrous to suggest that it refers to anything untoward. found on the CRU website regarding the leaked (see hijacked) emails. (emboldened text by me)
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Re: BUZSAW 2, OPPOSITION 0
Let's see some published work
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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See my last post, Message 68. These emails have been twisted and spun because of some the verbage used. (BTW, the CRU is the group in question with the leaked emails. So their take on the subject is of particular interest)
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Why, why, why? They were purported to be fraudsters and GW was mocked. If I called you a liar and made a mockery of your lifes work, would you just stand idley by? Edited by hooah212002, : spelling
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 98 of 191 (538641)
12-08-2009 1:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 96 by ICANT
12-08-2009 12:57 PM
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Re: Oh, really?
I read somewhere if you don't understand the subject well enough to explain it to a 10 year old and them be able to understand what you are talking about, you You don't understand the subject. That only applies to subjects....that it applies to. Try explaining pi to a 10 year old. calculus? relativity? Pythagoreans theorom? physics? Edited by hooah212002, : spelling of Pythagorean
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hooah212002
Member (Idle past 826 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: 08-12-2009
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Message 177 of 191 (540230)
12-22-2009 7:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 175 by Buzsaw
12-22-2009 5:58 PM
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Re: Resident confused scientists?
Make sure your tin hat is shiny side out, Buz.
Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people -Carl Sagan For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan
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