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Vacate
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Message 92 of 191 (538606)
12-08-2009 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
12-08-2009 6:31 AM


But why was there such a fuss about these emails being leaked?
Invasion of privacy? Taking words out of context? False accusations? Theft?
Just a guess, its how I would feel.

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Vacate
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Message 103 of 191 (538661)
12-08-2009 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Buzsaw
12-08-2009 9:33 PM


Bad conspiracies
regulations on businesses and private affairs to the extent that we can't have any kind of open burning etc. The fact is that most of the manufacturing and industry has ceased to exist in upstate NY and there's relatively few left to pollute the environment.
So your goverment required industries to stop dumping toxins into the air, some did and some did not. You are upset because the polluting industries, the ones who could not make a profit without ruining your breathing air, moved on or died out. This bothers you?
Did you know that its often more profitable for such industries to move to third world countries where they can pollute to their hearts content? This must be great news for you since it frees up innocent western nations from having to pay these countries like you said earlier. Soon enough third world nations will have to pay the U.S. for all the carbon they are emitting due to the influx of industry.
I guess the UN conspiracy is not so well thought out after all. Third world nations will continue to be poor due to carbon taxes paid out to western nations. Plus we have clean air.
Sounds like a win win for the good guys if I understand your position correctly. This could all fall apart if industries just filtered out the toxins though. What would be the point of all this conspiring if our air was clean and western nations remained filthy rich?

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Vacate
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Message 109 of 191 (538713)
12-09-2009 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
12-09-2009 8:45 AM


Re: Bad conspiracies
1. Emission restrictions are not all that has driven industry from upstate NY.
Ok so a world wide conspiracy of climate scientists is not all that is needed to drive industry from left leaning states to third world countries. It also takes left leaning government mandates representing the wealthy elite from down state (who apparently prefer life in third world countries and not New York?)
Property taxes rise and taxpayers are forced out as well to find work.
Where do these poor souls move to: Conservative states or third world countries? Why does the U.N. conspire to empty left leaning states as opposed to conservative states given its the conservatives who have caught on to their nefarious plans? (Or am I not versed enough in my conspiracies?)
2. Third world nations will pretty much run the UN under globalist Obama's New World Order agenda
So when do you estimate the powerful nations will allow the poorest nations to make all the decisions? Now that Obama is the leader of the New World Order does he have some sort of ability to overrule the western nations ability to govern themselves? (Additionally, who ruled the New World Order before Obama?)
Why exactly do they want the third world nations to rule? The countries generally are cesspools of filth, anarchy, and disease so unless the New World Order is just looking for cheap real estate I fail to see a motive for all this. Does Obama have so little an income that he needs to move to the third world after his presidency? Realistically, from what you say, he could just move to upstate New York once its emptied.
3. All businesses have been driven out; not just the ones cited for polution.
If they can gut a whole state without needing to invent a global conspiracy then I have to wonder why all the extra effort. It must be tough to get away with all this stuff considering how many of you folks are well versed on the goals of the New World Order.
Once the New World Order succeeds and the third world countries are westernized and the western countries are third world what has been accomplished? Third world countries aren't so much nicer than ours that a global conspiracy is required to shift the wealth to these places.
Additionally, since the industry is leaving western countries to pollute freely in third world countries, those countries are only going to get worse. Where is the desire in these places? It is quite interesting to think that global warming is actually faked, the true goal is to keep smoke stacks unfiltered in the ugliest countries on the planet so the people living in the nicest countries on the planet can become the new stars of those "dollar a day" infomercials.
Nuts.

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