An inconvenient truth.... or lie?

Logically it would seem that significant global warming could have several effects:1. More evaporation to offset the possibility of significant rising in the depth of the ocean.2. A net increase of warming cycles of the atmosphere which would cause clouds to rise and become less dense.3. Lessening of rainfall due to clouds becoming less dense and rising.4. High cirrus increasing cloudiness effect, gradually and increasingly blanketing the planet.5. The net effect would be to lower the ocean levels and eventually blanket the planet.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Logical consideration of cause and effect if aggregate net increase of global warming happens pertaining to weather cycles. No?.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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LOL, Rahvin. I used the term relating to "known statements, events or conditions etc. i.e. Online Dictionary's #1 primary definition of logic. This thread has been about alleged scientific data upon which the UN
and much of the scientific community has determined that humanity is likely a major factor in the current warming trend.There are other factors which relate to this, as to how the data is rigged.Upstate NY has been cited by DEC NY regulators as a high emmissions area so as to impose oppressive regulations on businesses and private affairs to the extent that we can't have any kind of open burning etc. The fact is that most of the manufacturing and industry has ceased to exist in upstate NY and there's relatively few left to pollute the environment.Bill Nojay, of WYSL 1040AM, Rochester has exposed sensor location rigging such as the above link described by SUNNY NY scientists and the DEC NY environment agency.Are the emails and this type of pseudo science just the tip of the iceburg relative to science's questionable data which has been persistently perported to have establish the US's role in global emmissions?Is our present administration's aversion to tap our energy resourses, to impose carbon tax, and to impose all kinds of regulations etc which diminish our freedoms being foisted upon us based upon pseudo scientific data?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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1. Emission restrictions are not all that has driven industry from upstate NY. Big, corrupt and oppressive leftist government which mandates unfunded obligations on business, citizens, schools and local governments, etc and which is mostly representative of downstates big city interests has driven business from NY out of state, particularly upstate. Property taxes rise and taxpayers are forced out as well to find work.2. Third world nations will pretty much run the UN under globalist Obama's New World Order agenda. LOL on them ever paying their share.3. All businesses have been driven out; not just the ones cited for polution.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi Chimpanzee. LOL. Don't be so soon convinced about the veracity of the whole mess when the head man who has been forced to resign offers a short explanation for one hand picked from the batch. Edited by Buzsaw, : fix quote

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi DA. LOL. Who's got time to read them all and who's to know that some of both sides of forum debates aren't getting their info from the bloggers who've done the research? Have I missed something? I haven't seen the questionable ones refuted by the non-conspiritors bringing up the context of the cited questionable ones.ABE: BTW, about the placement of those censors which gather the data which I cited. Anyone? Edited by Buzsaw, : Add statement

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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As I find the time, I'll do some more researching the emails. In the meantime, for the third time who wants to address the censor placement problem which I cited in my message 102? This appears to lend support to the conspiratorial agenda of the UN relative to climatology.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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As is the plant kingdom which produces oxygen which survival of the human and animal kingdom is based upon, which supplies the plant kingdom.......which.......which...etc.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Yah, we know, especially when elitist people can enrich themselves with the peeple's money and when elitist people can empower themselves over the peeple. Too many oxygen producing plants? Too much pollen and allergies? Simple solution: Leave of the global concern about too many peeple who can manage the plants like the loggers, etc; Leave off birth management/control: open up the plant land confiscated by elitist people who govern the peeple; apply the natural remedies which deal with the pollen as I've done for myself, etc. I'm heading out for the evening and off to church tomorrow, also out of town. In the meantime, about the location of those censors. A penny for your thoughts. Nothing for your thoughts. Being an honest soul, I wouldn't want to lie to you for non-payment.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi Mr Jack. Tell me, since after my third appeal, everyone has evaded the question; did real objective climate scientists choose the placement locations of anthropogenic warming data censors from which they measure the extent of anthropogenic global warming?

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hy Tanypteryx. Obviously I misspelled sensor like I just misspelled Hy and you misspelled Buzsaw. We all misspell on occasion, you know.My statement pertained to anthropogenic (human related) sensor placement locations, apparantly located so as to exagerate the data depicting the extent of anthropogenic global warming. I spent most of the afternoon today and this evening reading up on the pros and cons of global warming relative to the emails etc. I had my rather lengthy message ready to submit, but went to search info about the butterworth filter relative to global warming and a website caused my computer to lock up which dumped everything when I hit "end task." So here I am past midnight reconstructing some of which I lost.Anyhow I concluded the following:1. Anglia's Jones et al claimed the emails were deleted due to storage space in a new facility or some nutty thing which doesn't make sense. The consensus is that there was no legitimate reason to delete them.2. Had Jones et al allowed all POVs to be discussed and aired openly rather than suppressing and hiding info this controversy could have been avoided. Jones et al appeared to be interesting in making available to the UN and other climatology interests what they deemed to be reliable and scientific.3. The dissemination of the information from Anglia et al appeared to egregiously exaggerate the role of CO2 relative to global warming and to drastically diminish the role of CO2 as one person has succinctly stated:4. I have concluded that an agregate increase of global warming has been happening over the past few centuries, especially relative to the past century. The controversy appears to be to what extent anthropogenic CO2 emmissions have factored in this.5. The prestigious Anglia climatology facility from which the UN globalist agenda to promote and impose cap and trade policies upon nations eminates appears to have supported that agenda by diminishing the role of CO2 and other natrogenic factors relative to the global warming phenomena. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix quote

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi Zen. The comment cited raises the pertinent point that warminsts perse, including East Anglia, for whatever reason, withhold data relative to the ongoing debate as to what extent anthropogenic factors play. The emails which have been cited show that information, for whatever reason, has been suppressed, rather than to allow all POVs to be aired and debated openly. Adjusted for what purpose and destroyed for what purpose? Had they not been destroyed, we would not be having this debate. All would have been out in the open for all to assess. 1. What possible purpose would censors measuring the atmosphere be placed close to points of heat exaust have other than to rig the data? Why, in upstate NY did the DEC regulators refuse to reveal the location of censors other than to suppress data from the public and business interests involved?2. The debate is not so much about climate change. I'm not aware of any significant denying of climate change. The deniers perse are skeptical of imminent danger of anthropogenic CO2. This is where the buck stops relative to redistribution of wealth in the global arena.
ACCU WEATHER's chief hurricane forecaster is interviewed by Don Imus on his morning show, Dec 11, 09. The UTUBE interview is worth listening to. So ZEN, Joe Bastardi, one of ACCU Weather's chief scientists is indeed a denier. This nonsense that you, Taz and others are touting here on this thread, inferring creationists as science bashing deniers is baseless. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix link

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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1. How do the remote sensors differenciate between anthropogenic and other CO2, etc? How do they determine which nation/s produce the most pollutants? The prevailing winds eventually carry the polution across the Pacific from China and other nations to the US where the censors would eventually pick up data, would they not?2. Blessed be the developed countries who send the air lifted famine relief, manufacture the water pumps, the electronic goodies, most of the food, the tools, heat and light our homes, the automobiles and all of the other nice things humans like. The question is whether the harm done is sufficient to destroy the planet.Objective weather scientists admit that it is difficult to calculate warming data so as to make determinations.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Hi Mr Jack. According to your link the modernization and maintainence upgrading funding just happens to apply to the hottest region of our nation, the Southwest. Isn't that convenient for the warmist camp? Perhaps it would have been scientifically prudent to spread what funds that were available evenly over the cold and hot regions so as to arrive at a more objective conclusion.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Yah, I know. These senior moments are bummers. I had it right by the end of the paragraph. Better late than never. Perhaps the complexity of it all allows for a significant amount of leeway so as to follow the money, the planet's prestigious peer pressure and the global agenda. The disclaimer comes in the admission of the difficulty in data determinations.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.