The Grand Theory of Life

Well, I clicked your link with interest to see what gem had prompted your praise, and All I can say is that I'm just off-loading the subject I love - given that EvC is strictly a debate site, I feel a bit of a fraud Exactly. All of our theories, whether in physics, chemistry, or biology, are merely explanatory mechanisms - explaining *how*. Anti-evolutionists regularly reveal their confusion by assigning "motive" to these theories - none so blatently than bolder-dash with his recent accusation claiming that the Theory of Evolution was poor science in its attempting to explain both how and *why*, in contrast to all other theories in science. Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.

Oh, Peg, I have never seen a post so affirming of an OP Organic soup -> Abiogenesis
Evolution -> *NOT* AbiogenesisMod is pointing out that evolution and abiogenesis are completely separate scientific areas, yet are constantly conflated by creationists - and here you are doing it again. And again If the study into abiogenesis shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that life could have arisen in a primordial soup, then it says NOTHING about evolution. Evolution stands and falls on its own evidence. It doesn't require and it doesn't imply abiogenesis.By the end of this topic, you will appreciate this or we will die trying...

Ok, thanks for the clarification Yep No, not just within species - we have observed speciation, as many creationists acknowledge (ICR) - but we don't need to argue that here, so I'll accept that that is your argument and that's fine Here, we'd really need to bash out what you mean by different life forms, and how we probably wouldn't expect this with evolution anyway - but again, I accept that this is your argument and that's fine.But what on earth does any of this have to do with abiogenesis?If "chemical soup" abiogenesis was proved to be impossible, and let's go further and say it was proved that in fact the first life was made up of complex cells that were created by god, then what on earth does this say about the ability of those created cells to evolve? Nothing...To repeat:Evolution stands and falls on its own evidence. It doesn't require and it doesn't imply abiogenesis.