Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 63 (9162 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 916,387 Year: 3,644/9,624 Month: 515/974 Week: 128/276 Day: 2/23 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Species/Kinds (for Peg...and others)
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 239 of 425 (541170)
01-01-2010 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Huntard
12-14-2009 3:37 PM


You Know It
A kind is any group that we have become familiar with to the extent that we have given it a name (And generally as a one word name or name we treat as one word: groundhog, bullfrog).
Finches are a kind; as are warblers. Birds are also a kind. But a cedar waxwing isn't a kind (though in some parts a waxwing is a kind, but not in Massachusetts because they aren't common.) Frogs are a kind; as are toads. Amphibians are also a kind. But leopard frogs aren't a kind.
The method for determining kinds is quizzing the locals. Simply ask "What kind of animals and plants you got around here?", and strike all the answers that aren't introduced with the phrase "We got us some". As in "We got us some grubs, and some worms; and kissin' bugs. Lots of kissin' bugs."
I hope this clears it up for all involved.
Happy new years, y'all.

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by Huntard, posted 12-14-2009 3:37 PM Huntard has not replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 245 of 425 (541200)
01-01-2010 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by ICANT
01-01-2010 12:53 PM


Re: Kind (Wolves)
But if you know anything about wild wolves you will know that it is very unlikely.
Wolves run in packs. They select a mate for life. The young females are not allowed to mate with any of the mated males. This is controled by the females. The males will kill any that try to mate with their lady. No one from another pack is allowed to infiltrate the pack. Must less mate with their females. The dominate male enforces all rules., if necessary.
Since male wolves leave the pack after about two years to start their own packs and the females tend to remain far longer any girl husky has her pick of wolf mates. Do you think a randy male wolf would reject a cute, little husky?

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 243 by ICANT, posted 01-01-2010 12:53 PM ICANT has not replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 306 of 425 (541322)
01-02-2010 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by ICANT
01-02-2010 12:11 PM


You're full of Beans
we have a lot of hybrids we call dogs.
We call them dogs but by necessity they aren't dogs because you earlier implied that dogs are a kind. And later implied hybrids are not a kind. So what are they if not dogs?
I don't remember calling them both dogs. Did I?
If you didn't say that do you agree with the sentiment? If not, why? Could you please just spill the beans so the info doesn't have to be squeezed out one contradictory drop at a time. Or is it you daren't spill the beans because that would force all the contradictions onto the same page?
Edited by lyx2no, : Grammar.

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 299 by ICANT, posted 01-02-2010 12:11 PM ICANT has not replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 317 of 425 (541361)
01-02-2010 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by ZenMonkey
01-02-2010 4:02 PM


Re: Beetle math.
350,000 different species of beetles times 60mm2 is (after a bit of fiddling) 21kms of area taken up if we laid just one representative each of every known species of beetles with no space in between, like a giant beetle carpet. Oops, if this is the Ark then we need two of each kind. Now that's 42km2 of beetles.
Your bit of fiddling needs revising I'm afraid. You need to divide by 10002 not 1000. You end up with 21m2. Multiply that by 2 for 42m2 and that converts to 1/80th of an acre.

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 312 by ZenMonkey, posted 01-02-2010 4:02 PM ZenMonkey has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 322 by ZenMonkey, posted 01-02-2010 10:12 PM lyx2no has replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 324 of 425 (541386)
01-02-2010 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by ZenMonkey
01-02-2010 10:12 PM


Re: Beetle math.
After all, 1/80th of an acre comes out to 544.5 ft2, or a square about 23 ft on a side. Kinda small for 350,000 beetles.
232×122×25.42÷350,000≈140. You were granting 120 mm2per pair.
60mm2=60(mm)2=60×(.0012)m2=60×(.000001)m2.
3.5×105×60×10-6m2=21m2
21m2×3.282(ft/m)2=226ft2
2×226ft2=452 ft2 for the pair.
43,560ft2per acre÷452ft2≈1/96th acre.
Kinda small for 350,000 beetles.
I'd given them too much room.
Edited by lyx2no, : 1/80th was wrong.

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 322 by ZenMonkey, posted 01-02-2010 10:12 PM ZenMonkey has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 326 by ZenMonkey, posted 01-03-2010 12:45 AM lyx2no has not replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 325 of 425 (541388)
01-02-2010 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by ICANT
01-02-2010 1:28 PM


ICANT Do Math
I have an ark that I have designed according to the Bible description and in it I have 18 acres of storage space and can put much more.
How do you get 18 acres into three stories of 450 feet by 75 feet each? That's only 2.3 acres if you include the area taken up by the structure of the ark itself.
Yeah, yeah, I know; another thread.
In your definition of kind do you include the kind of liberties you take in interpreting the Bible?

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 303 by ICANT, posted 01-02-2010 1:28 PM ICANT has not replied

  
lyx2no
Member (Idle past 4737 days)
Posts: 1277
From: A vast, undifferentiated plane.
Joined: 02-28-2008


Message 328 of 425 (541404)
01-03-2010 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 327 by jasonlang
01-03-2010 3:11 AM


Re: Kind
how did a pair of Three Toed Sloths get from south america to the middle east then back again ?
I have an airfoil that I have designed according to the Bible description and in it sloths can make the trip in 18 days or less.
1 Kings 6:24 With outstretched wings five cubits wide; the distance from the edge of one wing to the edge of the other was ten cubits.
Edited by lyx2no, : Add Bible verse.

You are now a million miles away from where you were in space-time when you started reading this sentence.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 327 by jasonlang, posted 01-03-2010 3:11 AM jasonlang has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024