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Sky-Writing
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Message 8 of 53 (542110)
01-07-2010 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Taz
10-21-2009 12:02 AM


Why do creationists have such trouble understanding the power of accumulation when it comes to biological diversity when everything else that we can directly observe came about through the power of accumulation?

Because your opinion is in opposition to what we see.

For example: If you take a garden hose and lay it on the ground with a trickle of water.....the flow will snake back and forth wider and wider and wider.

No matter how long, it will not create a great crack like the grand canyon.

With layers and layer and layers, laid over long times, the toplayers will be soft and the bottom, well hard as rock.

But the grand canyon? All layers of hard rock cut steep and deep.....as if all the layers were of the same hardness.

Just one example of slow accululation.....not.

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Sky-Writing
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Message 11 of 53 (542135)
01-07-2010 8:05 PM
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01-07-2010 7:03 PM


Have you seen god poof anything at all into existence?

Let's just say I know the exact procedure to get exactly what I need to have, and in most cases, the instant I ask. Poof. And it's no secret. Job covers the procedure.

Ok. I'll tell it.
If you pray long enough, and hard enough, God will tell you when to stop and just LET it go. In that next instant, He will POOF what you need in front of you. You will have no doubt it was an answer.

To the observer, they see nothing, because they don't know that your thought process was at work. But when that moment of asking and recieving comes, it's as clear as a bell.

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Sky-Writing
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Message 13 of 53 (542155)
01-07-2010 11:34 PM
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01-07-2010 8:24 PM


For a second, I thought you were an honest poster. Then I read your posts. This is the science section of the forum, dude. All of your posts have been devoid of any actual substance.

My answer to the question about "Poofing something into existence" was just about as reproducible and formal and scientific as you can get.

.....You've done nothing but preach.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan


ROFLOL!!

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Sky-Writing
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Message 14 of 53 (542156)
01-07-2010 11:48 PM
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01-07-2010 7:23 PM


You've never looked at a picture of the Grand Canyon? You've obviously never read one of the excellent threads here at EvC about the variety of formations visible there......and yes, the accumulated gradually.

I've taken pictures on the south canyon jeep tour, but didn't see any threads to read. I compare the structures to white water trips I've been on and to Mt. St. Hellens. And what the Creation Kooks say is true. There is an almost exact replica of the Grand Canyon. The same structures, angles, the same little trickle in the bottom. Only created in weeks.


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Sky-Writing
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Message 21 of 53 (542215)
01-08-2010 10:40 AM
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01-08-2010 12:26 AM


Miniature Grand Canyon recreated in days
Like Vacate, I should like to see a scrap of a shred of a scintilla of evidence for this monstrous lie. But it will not be forthcoming.

Here are some pics.
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/...SH/Images/sediment_erosion.html

Just Google-Map "Mt St Helens, Gifford Pinchot, Skamania, Washington" You will see the exact same erosion patterns in fresh ash as in "slowly layered sediment". Zoom in till 1 inch = 1 mile.

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Sky-Writing
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Message 23 of 53 (542218)
01-08-2010 11:02 AM
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01-08-2010 8:46 AM


If there had been a global flood a mere 4500 years ago then it would be the dominant geological feature of our planet, but there are no signs of it anywhere.

3/4 of the earth surface is sedimentary layers. (water born)
And fossils only exist when buried rapidly by sediment.


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Sky-Writing
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Message 24 of 53 (542219)
01-08-2010 11:09 AM
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01-08-2010 10:48 AM


Re: Miniature Grand Canyon recreated in days
It's not an "almost exact replica" of the grand canyon then, is it? The grand canyon isn't made of ash, for one. It's made of a somewhat harder substance known as rock.

My point exactly. Yet the erosion patterns are identical. So one can't use the Grand Canyon as an example of millions of years of erosion, if the same feat can be accomplished in days.

Similarly, one can't claim crude oil as an example of millions of years of sediments, if the same result can be accomplished in weeks with a load of garbage slop.


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Sky-Writing
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Message 25 of 53 (542220)
01-08-2010 11:14 AM
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01-08-2010 7:07 AM


1) nice response. How long before we can expect no more than 1 letter responses from you?
2) You do realize you consistantly quote my signature?
Please, for the good of the forum, post SOMETHING of substance.

"Remove the log from thine own eye first...."
"Physician, heal thyself"
"etc."


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Sky-Writing
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Message 26 of 53 (542225)
01-08-2010 11:28 AM
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01-08-2010 8:46 AM


The river canyon at the Grand Canyon formed over millions of years by the flow of the Colorado River gradually eroding through solid rock layers.

You're not up to speed. The most plausible public theory is that a plate uplift gave way and an inland sea to burst through and cut the canyon in months. But I enjoy defending "mainstream science" when they already agree with biblical concepts.


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Message 30 of 53 (542239)
01-08-2010 12:15 PM
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01-08-2010 11:54 AM


Bunched up Panties
You are Making Shit Up, Sky. Post a link to this "plausible public theory" or shut up.

Don't get your panties all in a bunch if somebody disagrees
with your specific point of view.
Do your own research.
Draw your own conclusions from the data.
Everybody else is doing it.

"The modern Colorado River did not carve the Grand Canyon in the last few million years," Dr. Elston said. "The canyon was already there."

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