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Author Topic:   What was God’s plan behind Creation and why does he need one?
Huntard
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Message 8 of 174 (542203)
01-08-2010 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 9:46 AM


Re: God's purpose & why the rules
hooah212002 writes:
Are we to assume that because this broad ate an apple, god made all these areas inhospitable, and they were not this way before "the fall"?
Pretty much, yes. The flood was probably another big contributor to that fact.

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2320 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 10 of 174 (542205)
01-08-2010 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 10:01 AM


Re: God's purpose & why the rules
hooah212002 writes:
I guess this IS the Faith and Belief section, so anything is possible......
Indeed. That's the risk of posting in this section, pretty much anything goes, since magic is allowed.

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Huntard
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From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 64 of 174 (543078)
01-15-2010 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by hooah212002
01-14-2010 10:42 AM


hooah212002 writes:
I have a hard time believing god sitting around for eons doing nothing.
It's even worse than that. God actually sat around for an infinitely long time doing nothing at all. Try to wrap your head around that one!

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Huntard
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From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 78 of 174 (543442)
01-18-2010 5:09 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by ICANT
01-15-2010 12:21 PM


Re: Sitting around
ICANT writes:
Where do you get that idea from?
God's eternal, no?
Time did not exist until man invented a way to measure duration/existence.
Until then there was only duration/existence.
Or time, as normal people call it.

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Huntard
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Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 81 of 174 (543457)
01-18-2010 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Minority Report
01-18-2010 8:22 AM


Re: If God is good, why is there evil.
Minority Report writes:
If you were to make a top 100 list for greatest sufferers in all history, God would be No.1 on that List.
Oh please. Like he was the only one that was tortured to death.

I hunt for the truth
I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.
-Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2320 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
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Message 90 of 174 (543555)
01-19-2010 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Minority Report
01-19-2010 5:30 AM


Re: If God is good, why is there evil.
Minority Report writes:
I was not just referring to the physical suffering during His death. God Still exists and is still suffering, and He has been since Adam sinned, from our continual rejection of Him. Individuals may have suffered physically more than Jesus, but they did not bear the weight of the worlds sin. God loves each one of us, and every sin we commit grieves Him, as does every one of us that chooses to be eternally separated from Him.
Well, this is the "faith and belief" forum, so I guess there is not much i can do to counter that, since it is your belief, and is internally consistent.
Regardless, I don't believe that to be the case, so let's leave it at that.
I will say that I now understand where you are coming from, and in that context, you were right, god is the biggest sufferer of all.

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Huntard
Member (Idle past 2320 days)
Posts: 2870
From: Limburg, The Netherlands
Joined: 09-02-2008


Message 102 of 174 (543670)
01-20-2010 7:38 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Minority Report
01-20-2010 7:04 AM


Re: If God is good, why is there evil.
I can see a problem right here:
Minority Report writes:
Larni: Ok then, my will is to reject you, and any help you offer.
God: Alrighty then, but don't blame me for not helping when you suffer the consequences of your actions.
Many that suffer have accepted god. They still suffer, nothing is done by god to help them. See Haiti, almost all of the people there are Christians.

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