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ICANT
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Message 106 of 270 (542070)
01-07-2010 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Straggler
01-06-2010 4:23 PM


Re: Oh please, are you serious?
Hi Straggler,
Straggler writes:
If you wanna talk 2,000 year old Greek then you do that. Although you might have a problem finding people to converse with.
Not really we have conversations all the time.
Anyone who wants to know what a true New Testament Christian is or stands for has to go to the language of the day the word is used to identify them.
If you want to know the modern day preversion of what a NTC is you go to a modern dictionary.
That definition does not agree with the original word Christian and what it means.
So any comparison is like comparing apples and oranges.
It depends on your worldview and what you want to believe. If you want the truth you go to the original. If you want your pet beliefs then make up your own or use one someone else made up.
Straggler writes:
Anyway what term would you use to describe what everyone else means by the term "Christian"? Communication is the key yes? Just to be clear.
Sorry but I am not a mind reader.
Now if I was going to give a word that describes the people that are being called christians in this thread it would be Xians as those people called christians has left Christ out competely.
They are like the Church in Rev. 3:20 where Jesus is standing outside the Church knockiing on the door trying to get in. This is the catagory most churches and so called christians fit in today.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 107 of 270 (542074)
01-07-2010 2:15 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by ICANT
01-07-2010 1:52 PM


Re: Oh please, are you serious?
ICANT writes:
If you want the truth you go to the original. If you want your pet beliefs then make up your own or use one someone else made up.
And if you want to meaningfully communicate with people you use the same words they do with the same meanings or find other ways to express yourself.

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Granny Magda
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Message 108 of 270 (542086)
01-07-2010 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Buzsaw
01-07-2010 12:03 AM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Hey Buz,
What worries you about extremist fundi Christians? What do you consider worrisome religious extremist relative to Christianity these days?
Well Rahvin mentioned the murder of George Tiller, which i had already mentioned in this thread. Oddly enough I find it worrying that a man can be gunned down, in front of his wife and friends, in a frickin' church, merely for doing his job. I find it worrying that extremist Christian groups with which the killer was affiliated are lauding this murdering scum as an "American hero". But then I'm eccentric like that.
Coyote detailed the crude assault on America's system of government and, believe it or not, I find that worrying too. Equally worrying is the assault on science, as typified by the fevered attempts of Christian extremists to turn school textbooks into their own personal propaganda screeds (something else I already mentioned). You don't think that's worth worrying about? I respectfully disagree;
Mariah Blake writes:
Amesa volunteer with the ultra- conservative Eagle Forum and Minuteman militia member who occasionally publishes angry screeds accusing illegal immigrant aliens of infesting America with diseases or blasting the environmentalist agenda to destroy Americapushed to infuse the standards with his right-wing views and even managed to add a line requiring books to give space to conservative icons, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority, without any liberal counterweight.
...
Barton’s goal is to pack textbooks with early American documents that blend government and religion, and paint them as building blocks of our Constitution. In so doing, he aims to blur the fact that the Constitution itself cements a wall of separation between church and state. But his agenda does not stop there. He and the other conservative experts also want to scrub U.S. history of its inconvenient blemishesif they get their way, textbooks will paint slavery as a relic of British colonialism that America struggled to cast off from day one and refer to our economic system as ethical capitalism. They also aim to redeem Communist hunter Joseph McCarthy, a project McLeroy endorses. As he put it in a memo to one of the writing teams, Read the latest on McCarthyHe was basically vindicated.
On the global front, Barton and company want textbooks to play up clashes with Islamic cultures, particularly where Muslims were the aggressors, and to paint them as part of an ongoing battle between the West and Muslim extremists. Barton argues, for instance, that the Barbary wars, a string of skirmishes over piracy that pitted America against Ottoman vassal states in the 1800s, were the original war against Islamic Terrorism. What’s more, the group aims to give history a pro-Republican slantthe most obvious example being their push to swap the term democratic for republican when describing our system of government.
Source; http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/...res/2010/1001.blake.html
Now you may think that all sounds just dandy, but to me that sounds like a bunch of religious loons trying to turn public education into their personal indoctrination campaign.
Or we could go back to Uganda, where the LRA are now on the run, but Christians continue to seek the deaths of anyone of whom they disapprove;
Jeffrey Gettelman writes:
KAMPALA, Uganda Last March, three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about curing homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.
The theme of the event, according to Stephen Langa, its Ugandan organizer, was the gay agenda that whole hidden and dark agenda and the threat homosexuals posed to Bible-based values and the traditional African family.
For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how the gay movement is an evil institution whose goal is to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.
Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior.
Source; Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push - The New York Times
Again, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this is worrying.
I mean, how can you possibly compare the global Christian extremists a threat to you?
Mostly, these events are not a threat to me, at least not directly. But then, I'm not selfish enough to only be motivated to concern by things that directly involve myself. I care about other people too y'know.
Why is it that some of you people incessantly compare the threat of Islam to Christianity in these modern times? It appears to be a paranoia among some of you. Why?
For the reasons I already outlined; the similarities in thought between Muslim and Christian extremists are striking. That in itself is worrying. Perhaps you don't feel so worried, but then, you don't live in a country where, within relatively recent memory, Christian terrorists almost succeeded in wiping out the entire ruling government in a single bombing (I'm talking about the Brighton bomb here).
Let me be clear; modern Christianity is currently much less dangerous than Islam. Nearly every day we see new Islamic terror atrocities. Just today, on the BBC's world news front page, there are stories about Obama on the aftermath of the Pants-Bomber attack, an explosion in Afghanistan that has killed nine people and another report on Islamic terrorism in Yemen. That is fairly typical. Islam stands head and shoulder above other religions in the terror stakes, mostly, in my view, because it has never enjoyed a Reformation or Enlightenment.
My problem with your stance in this thread is that you seem to imagine that Christianity is whiter than white and that just isn't the case. If your only point is "Hey, we're not as bad as the Muslims!" then I agree. However, this is a strikingly low standard to which to compare oneself. It's like a murderer claiming "Hey, i may have killed one or two people, but at least I'm not Ted Bundy!". Well gee-whiz that's swell, but just as one does not get credit for not being a serial killer, Christianity doesn't get credit for not going on a terror rampage. You're not supposed to go on a rampage. This is a basic expectation. You don't get credit for behaving exactly as you are supposed to behave.
In short, just because other religious adherents behave much worse than Christians, doesn't mean that the excesses of Christianity should suddenly be forgotten.
Mutate and Survive

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hooah212002
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Message 109 of 270 (542088)
01-07-2010 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Granny Magda
01-07-2010 2:48 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
I was watching a thunderf00t video on Youtube (at work, Youtube is blocked right now, otherwise I would link it) where he dissects Ben Stein's movie "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed". In his dissection, he shows a clip of Mr. Stein on a christian talk show. I'm not sure of the entire transcript, but at the end he did say "jesus saves people, science KILLS people". He literally said science kills people. Literally.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Granny Magda
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Message 110 of 270 (542094)
01-07-2010 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by hooah212002
01-07-2010 2:55 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Yeah, that was an especially reprehensible statement.
The sad thing is that Stein seems to think he sounds clever when he says things like that. He doesn't. In fact, thanks to his honking nasal voice, he sounds like what he always sounds like; a goose choking to death on a kazoo.
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dronestar
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Message 111 of 270 (542213)
01-08-2010 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Granny Magda
01-07-2010 2:48 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Let me be clear; modern Christianity is currently much less dangerous than Islam.
Are you quite sure? Bush Jr.'s christian amerika has invaded countries based on lies. Murdered millions of innocents including women and children. Displaced millions more from their homes. Uses illegal weapons including land mines, phosophorus bombs, cluster bombs, depleted uranium weapons, and napalm that are denounced by the world. Forget about weapons of MASS destruction, Obama's christian amerika is the leading small arms weapon seller of the world. Obama's christian amerika's military budget is EQUAL to the rest of the world COMBINED.
Much less dangerous?
Really?
Edited by dronester, : depleted uranium weapons, not depleted uranium bombs

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Message 112 of 270 (542222)
01-08-2010 11:23 AM
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01-08-2010 10:34 AM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Bush Jr.'s christian amerika
Obama's christian amerika
Really? So you really think we are a "christian nation"? All united by our love of christ? All Americans are christians? All soldiers are christians? I don't recall Obama invading Afghanistan......(we were already there).

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Message 113 of 270 (542232)
01-08-2010 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 11:23 AM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Errm, I didn't write that Obama invaded Afghanistan. (However, watch for a Yemen invasion soon. Certainly Obama wants a war he can call his own)
I also didn't write all amerikans are christians.
But hooah212002, yeah, I agree with your sentiment, I am painting with a very broad brush.
However some points:
1. Amerika has never elected a non-christian president (you know, I may be wrong about that if you consider earlier centuries. Anybody with an 18th century example). Anyways, in the near future, can you imagine amerika electing a non-christian president? (not including a stealth muslim like Buzz thinks Obama is)
2. Amerika's largest religious percentage is christians.
3. When Bush Jr. said his favorite philospher was Jesus Christ, a large percentage of insipid amerikans ate that up.
Lastly, I noted you didn't disagree with my other points.

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Message 114 of 270 (542237)
01-08-2010 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Granny Magda
01-07-2010 2:48 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
GM writes:
Well Rahvin mentioned the murder of George Tiller, which i had already mentioned in this thread. Oddly enough I find it worrying that a man can be gunned down, in front of his wife and friends, in a frickin' church, merely for doing his job. I find it worrying that extremist Christian groups with which the killer was affiliated are lauding this murdering scum as an "American hero". But then I'm eccentric like that.
Granny, Granny, listen up. All ideologies and aspects of human life have their nutcases. Citing this one lone incident by this one deranged nutcase is a strawman response to my question and my position. This one incident has now been cited three times in this thread, none having any relevance to the fact that fundamentalist Christians do not pose any significant terrorist threat to the planet as has, in recent history, been the case with secularist/athiestic communism and the fundamentals of Islam/Jihad and violence. The need to repeat three times for you people to cite this one incident or even a few isolated incidents by nutcases makes my point, that the fundamentals of NT Christianity pose no global threat whatsoever to humanity.
GM writes:
Coyote detailed the crude assault on America's system of government and, believe it or not, I find that worrying too. Equally worrying is the assault on science, as typified by the fevered attempts of Christian extremists to turn school textbooks into their own personal propaganda screeds (something else I already mentioned). You don't think that's worth worrying about? I respectfully disagree;
LOL. The American system of government is a republic as per the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, etc as per and instituted by the founding fathers whose majority espoused the fundamentals of NT Christianity and the Biblical Ten Commandments.
GM writes:
Mariah Blake writes:
Amesa volunteer with the ultra- conservative Eagle Forum and Minuteman militia member who occasionally publishes angry screeds accusing illegal immigrant aliens of infesting America with diseases or blasting the environmentalist agenda to destroy Americapushed to infuse the standards with his right-wing views and even managed to add a line requiring books to give space to conservative icons, such as Newt Gingrich, Phyllis Schlafly and the Moral Majority, without any liberal counterweight.
LOL again. How does this freedom of speech pose a terroristic threat, any more than the fundamentals set forth in the Koran, the Haddith, the Sunnahs, the Communist Manifesto, quotes from Black Panthers, and in fact, some of the Christophobic hate speach here at EvC?
GM writes:
Barton’s goal is to pack textbooks with early American documents that blend government and religion, and paint them as building blocks of our Constitution. In so doing, he aims to blur the fact that the Constitution itself cements a wall of separation between church and state.
1. Where/what in the Constitution is there a cemented wall between church and state or against religion? Must I again, for the umpteent time repeat the fact that our founders advocated the Bible and Watts Hymnal IN ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS and instituted church services IN THE HALLS OF CONGRESS, ACCOMPANIED BY THE US MARINE BAND? Are you trying to convince the www that our own founders desecrated the very laws which they drew up?
2. Barton, thankfully, is apprising America on precisely and factually what the founders believed, practiced and had in mind/advocated when they established this republic.
Here's my challenge to you, Granny. Cite one example of falsified information that Barton has published or proclaimed relative to the founding fathers or relative to the Constitution and explain to us how it has been falsified.
GM writes:
But his agenda does not stop there. He and the other conservative experts also want to scrub U.S. history of its inconvenient blemishesif they get their way, textbooks will paint slavery as a relic of British colonialism that America struggled to cast off from day one and refer to our economic system as ethical capitalism. They also aim to redeem Communist hunter Joseph McCarthy, a project McLeroy endorses. As he put it in a memo to one of the writing teams, Read the latest on McCarthyHe was basically vindicated.
Need I remind you that all nations in history at one time or another have practiced slavery? Need I remind you that it is the Republican Party whose first president was Abraham and the scores of thousands who died and maimed all, worked for the emcipation and integrating of slaves and blacks? Do you ever assimilate anything said, which empirically refutes your irrational ranting, Granny?
GM writes:
On the global front, Barton and company want textbooks to play up clashes with Islamic cultures, particularly where Muslims were the aggressors, and to paint them as part of an ongoing battle between the West and Muslim extremists. Barton argues, for instance, that the Barbary wars, a string of skirmishes over piracy that pitted America against Ottoman vassal states in the 1800s, were the original war against Islamic Terrorism. What’s more, the group aims to give history a pro-Republican slantthe most obvious example being their push to swap the term democratic for republican when describing our system of government.
Wake up and SMELL THE COFFEE, Granny. Mohammed and his successors all have declared a fatwa of global domination, meaning that all infidels, i.e. non-Muslims must become under Islamic fundamentalistic Shariah law. Barton is right on as always.
GM writes:
Now you may think that all sounds just dandy, but to me that sounds like a bunch of religious loons trying to turn public education into their personal indoctrination campaign.
Your unsupported allegations sounds to me like Christophobic and unsupported hate speach,
Or we could go back to Uganda, where the LRA are now on the run, but Christians continue to seek the deaths of anyone of whom they disapprove;
Again do you read or think before your post, Granny? Did you bother to refute my previous point that Uganda is engaged in civil war among factions? Particularly in Africa, atrocities are often perpetrated by both sides of a faction conflict.

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hooah212002
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Message 115 of 270 (542238)
01-08-2010 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by dronestar
01-08-2010 11:48 AM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
Christians have a pretty big fucking voice in AmeriCa (note the "c"). It hasn't been until recently that not being christian is even remotely acceptable. So yea, I would imagine it to be damn near impossible for a non-christian to be elected to ANY office.
Call it a misunderstanding, but I took you to mean that the U.S. was somehow espoused in christianity, just like most Islamic nations are draped in ...well, Islam. I really don't see us as being drenched in religion. That was the WHOLE point of our foundation: freedom. Just because a majority of the population is christian (because that's all they know and are afraid of change, faithwise) doesn't, IMO, label us as "a christian nation". We've never done anything under the guise of religion. We've used freedom as our blanket of protection.
Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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dronestar
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Message 116 of 270 (542240)
01-08-2010 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 12:09 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
hooah212002 writes:
We've [amerKa] never done anything under the guise of religion.
When Bush jr. used the word "crusade" during the build-up to his illegal and immoral invasions, it was a deliberate use to scare the christian nation to war. It worked quite successfully on religious people.
You said it yourself:
hooah212002 writes:
(because that's all they [ameriKans] know and are afraid of change, faithwise)
hooah212002 writes:
I really don't see us as being drenched in religion.
To the point of automatically excluding all other non-christian presidential candidates, yes I think we are.
hooah212002 writes:
I took you to mean that the U.S. was somehow espoused in christianity
Yes, but as I conceded, I am using a broad stroked brush. Please re-read Buzsaws message above, #114 for another supporting example.

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Message 117 of 270 (542247)
01-08-2010 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by dronestar
01-08-2010 12:29 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
So buzsaw is a prime example of ALL citizens of the united States?
Questions to our partners across the pond: is this how Americans are viewed? As ignorant bible toting fools? spewing hate in the name of YHWH?
That's not the U.S. I see. i can recognize where it lies IN the U.S., and that portion of the country seems to be waning.
Yes, but as I conceded, I am using a broad stroked brush.
I think a little TOO broad.....

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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dronestar
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Message 118 of 270 (542249)
01-08-2010 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 12:39 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
So buzsaw is a prime example of ALL citizens of the united States?
I didn't write "prime" example of "ALL" citizens of the united States? I wrote ". . . for another supporting example".
It seems you are making up things I am not actually writing. That may be why you are thinking I am using a "little too broad" of a brush.
That's not the U.S. I see. i can recognize where it lies IN the U.S., and that portion of the country seems to be waning.
I hope you are right.

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Message 119 of 270 (542250)
01-08-2010 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by dronestar
01-08-2010 12:46 PM


Re: Where have All the REAL Christians Gone?
It seems you are making up things I am not actually writing.
Not intentionally. Maybe I am reading too far into what you are writing, or we are speaking past one another.

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
-Carl Sagan

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Message 120 of 270 (542251)
01-08-2010 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by hooah212002
01-08-2010 12:39 PM


Where have All the REAL Americans Gone?
Questions to our partners across the pond: is this how Americans are viewed?
Yep. Gun totin, bible bashin, inbred rednecks who live on coke and McKingBurgers, drive huge gas guzzlin cars, wear bad fitting Hawain shirts and carry overly expensive cameras around as you make your brash, loudmouthed and ill tempered one time trip out of the US.
That's not the U.S. I see. i can recognize where it lies IN the U.S., and that portion of the country seems to be waning.
Yes. I hear that hot dogs are popular too.
I think a little TOO broad.....
On a more serious note - America (and Americans) inspire some very strong stereotype based opinons both negative and positive around the world IMHO.
But the details, reasons and reality of that are almost worth a thread in itself (again IMHO)

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