RAZD
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Message 4 of 29 (541611)
01-04-2010 6:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Jack 01-04-2010 5:02 PM
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Hi Mr Jack
quote: The course is based on the book Evolution by Douglas J. Futuyma (Sinauer, 2005), which is provided. A full colour Companion Text guides the student through the course books.
Sounds like solid source material. Will they be posting any lecture material, things that could include definitions of evolution, natural selection, speciation, and the ToE in their terms? Definitely of interest.
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RAZD
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Message 9 of 29 (541718)
01-05-2010 8:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Dr Jack 01-05-2010 4:48 PM
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Re: Section A: Evolutionary Biology
Thanks, Mr. Jack,
... convergent evolution (illustrated by dolphins and penguins), ... ooo, I'm adding that one to my list - between sugar gliders\flying squirrels and killer whale\white sharks ...
... gives a detailed description of the views of the modern synthesis. And brushes through post-synthesis development, particularly molecular genetics, evo-devo and Kimura's neutral theory. ... Does he provide any new way of looking at the definition of evolution with all these elements? or does he still keep a simple "change in the frequency distribution of alleles ..." approach? Thanks. Edited by RAZD, : .
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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off topic rambling refuted
Hi Kaichos Man, trying to spread denial to a new thread to drag it off topic?
The lack of transitional fossils can only -only- be explained by a lack of transitional species. Ah yes, the "absence of evidence is evidence of absence" logical fallacy. Congratulations for being so clearly wrong. The complete absence of fossil evidence for the Coelacanth since the end of the Cretaceous period clearly proves that these did not exist between then and now. Then there is the matter of foramiinifera:
Evolution at Sea Complete Fossil Record from the Ocean Upholds Darwins Gradualism quote: Tony Arnold and Bill Parker compiled what may be the largest, most complete set of data on the evolutionary history of any group of organisms, marine or otherwise. The two scientists amassed something that their land-based colleagues only dreamed about: An intact fossil record with no missing links. "It's all here--a virtually complete evolutionary record," says Arnold. "There are other good examples, but this is by far the best. We're seeing the whole picture of how this group of organisms has changed throughout most of its existence on Earth." The organism that Arnold and Parker study is a single-celled, microscopic animal belonging to the Foraminiferida, an order of hard-shelled, planktonic marine protozoans. Often shortened to "forams," the name comes from the Latin word foramen, or "opening." The organisms can be likened to amoebas wearing shells, with perforations through which their protoplasm extends. The foram shell shapes range from plain to bizarre. ... "There's a nifty passage in Darwin," says Arnold, "in which he descirbes the fossil record as a library with only a few books, and each book has only a few chapters. The chapters have only a few words, and the words are missing letters." "Well, in this case, we've got a relatively complete library," says Arnold. "The 'books' are in excellent shape. You can see every page, every word." As he speaks, Arnold shows a series of microphotographs, depicting the evolutionary change wrought on a single foram species. "This is the same organism, as it existed through 500,000 years," he says. "We've got hundreds of examples like this, complete life and evolutionary histories for dozens of species." About 330 species of living and extinct planktonic forams have been classified so far. After thorough examinations of marine sediments collected from around the world, micropaleontologists now suspect these are just about all the free-floating forams that ever existed. The species collection also is exceptionally well-preserved, which accounts largely for the excitement shared by Parker and Arnold. "Most fossils, particularly those of the vertebrates, are fragmented--just odds and ends," says Parker. "But these fossils are almost perfectly preserved, despite being millions of years old." ... Darwin termed the process gradualism, a theory that invokes the slow accumulation of small evolutionary changes over a large period of time, as a result of the pressures of natural selection. What Arnold and Parker found is almost a textbook example of gradualism at work.
We've literally seen hundreds of speciation events," syas Arnold. "This allows us to check for patterns, to determine what exactly is going on. We can quickly tell whether something is a recurring phenomenon--a pattern--or whether it's just an anomally. This way, we cannot only look for the same things that have been observed in living organisms, but we can see just how often these things really happen in the environment over an enormous period of time.
Not just transitional fossils between one species to the next, but the whole pattern of this particular phylum laid out in detail.
What a load of parrot droppings. Take a look around. Rivers, lakes, seas and oceans everywhere. Daily tides. Frequent droughts and floods. Fossils are being formed by the ton as we speak, all over the world. And this process has been going on for (supposedly) millions of years. If the theory of evolution was true, we would be up to our necks in transitional fossils, each tiny darwinian step lovingly catalogued in the strata. As we see in the case of foraminifera, transitional fossils between species (and higher) exist, and in this one case it covers millions of years in a continuous record where the accumulation of fossils is not reliant on environmental or other factors. Thus we see, that when there are no causes preventing the reservation of fossils, or for disrupting fossils after deposition, that there is indeed the preserved record of evolving life year after year, generation after generation, species after species, for millions of years. Your opinion has once again been invalidated by fact. Watch out for those parrot droppings. btw - you are off topic here, so I suggest you do not reply but start another thread. Now we return to our regular programing: An ongoing report on S366:Evolution by Mr Jack
... an ongoing report of what I'm studying on the course ... As a case study in what real Evolutionary biology (even if only at undergraduate level) covers? Post moved to new topic to remove off-topic material see Transitional Fossils Show Evolution in Process Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : coelacanth added Edited by RAZD, : off topic Edited by RAZD, : ... Edited by RAZD, : . Edited by RAZD, : .. Edited by RAZD, : moved post to new topic Edited by RAZD, : link updated
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