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Huntard Member (Idle past 2294 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Hmm, a triple spam attack! To arms!
One Two Three I hunt for the truth I am the one Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping handMy image is of agony, my servants rape the land Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore. -Lyrics by Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead
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Parasomnium Member Posts: 2224 Joined: |
a triple spam attack But not a very smart one, if you ask me. The link doesn't work. But it's pretty annoying, that's for sure.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4032 Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
Found here.
He refers to me as a "thin skinned dung weasel" when I point out that his argument is an ad hominem attack. Which is a rather amusing insult that I'll admit I haven't heard before, but also rather ironically demonstrates my point. He the segues into a lengthy argumentum ad linkum, spamming several bare links with no argument in his own words. Methinks -Sky- needs a reminder to read the rules.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Message 58 Remedial Evolution: seekingfirstthekingdom and RAZD The Great Debate
wrong thread, wrong message.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 801 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
in The power of accumulation in evolution is common sense!, -sky- refuses to back any of his statements up with any sort of substance. he has been repeatedly asked to provide evidence, yet continues to post nothingness. Most, if not all, of his replies consist of no more than 2 lines.
Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people -Carl Sagan For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.-Carl Sagan |
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ZenMonkey Member (Idle past 4510 days) Posts: 428 From: Portland, OR USA Joined: |
Is someone trying to set a record for most bannings for the same post? Witness Message 1.
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Larni Member (Idle past 163 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
If that's not drmabus I will eat my hat.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
See Message 19
has nothing to do with the topic
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Percy writes: I don't believe explaining 2LOT principles in layperson's terms is an unreasonable request, particularly when the term "entropy" is being thrown about. If you think the request unreasonable and are unwilling to comply with it then you had best avoid the topic of thermodynamics in this thread. My jaw just dropped, can you pick it up for me?
I didn't bring up the topic of the 2LOT. Smooth Operator started talking crap about it like creationists so often do when they're cornered. Now you tell me that I shouldn't reply to him unless I can explain it "in layman's terms". I can't. No-one can. I might give it a try, but I have a better chance of walking on water. If I explain it in layman's terms, I haven't explained it. If I explain it, I can't do so in layman's terms. Of course if you proposed the same challenge to Smooth Operator, he could talk complete bullshit about it "in layman's terms". But no-one can give you the accurate picture in layman's terms. The concept of entropy is inexplicable in layman's terms. You might as well ask me to tell you what the Riemann Zeta Hypothesis is, but without any of my mathematical mumbo-jumbo. There's no analog. I can't say: "Well, imagine the Universe is a rubber sheet ..." Einstein was lucky. But on the basis that I can't do this, you say that I should stop pointing out that Smooth Operator is wrong about it ... while issuing no warning to him to stop being wrong about it. Apparently the difference is that he can express his errors "in layman's terms", whereas it is impossible for me to tell the truth in the same vernacular medium. Level the playing field by all means, but do not privilege nonsense over truth. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 12995 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Hi Dr Adequate,
Let's say you're right, that mockery is the only alternative. Jefferson said it best: "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them." However, we're not going to do that here. If you feel that leaves you helpless then I guess you're done. But as moderator I'm prepared to help hold SO's feet to the fire of evidence, explanation and argumentation provided by participants, and if you care to help build that fire it would be welcome.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Is the message Message 652 intended to redefine the topic to just genetic entropy ?
I have to say that I consider the discussion of Dembski's CSI more central to the original topic and one where I am better qualified (and informed) than most members. If I were to focus on a single topic I would prefer to focus on that, even if it requires dropping other parts of my post (written prior to the Admin message appearing). I am happy for others to deal with the genetic entropy topic, especially Wounded King who is far better qualified than I am to discuss that.
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Admin Director Posts: 12995 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
PaulK writes: Is the message Message 652 intended to redefine the topic to just genetic entropy ? No, it's just a suggestion, but SO's tendency to respond to sentences instead of to arguments is making everyone's posts way too long, and I think the actual arguments are getting lost. Anyone who thinks they have focus doesn't need any help. Anyone who feels they're getting pulled in too many different directions might want to try my suggestion.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
According to the administrators:
Dr Adequate's posting privileges for this forum have been removed. What I am wondering is whether there was any reason for this. After all, no reason whatsoever was supplied. Apparently I have transgressed in such a subtle way that no-one will ever know what I did wrong. It seems that Percy feels that there was some good reason for his action, but he is either unable or unwilling to explain what it is. Does anyone at all believe that there was any good reason for this? Anyone? Please let me know. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Admin Director Posts: 12995 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Hi Dr Adequate,
I encourage others to help shed any light they can to help you resolve your puzzlement, whether they share my views or not, but I assume you read Message 642Everyone Read This[/color] (Message 642 of Thread What exactly is ID? in Forum Intelligent Design), the message where I said I was tired of talking myself blue in the face and, that "I'm not posting any more requests or explanations," that I was "expressing myself solely with 24-hour suspensions in this thread for now." I decided to instead just remove your posting privileges in the forum. If you have specific questions then I will try to answer them, but given that the answers I've provided thus far have not made any sense to you I doubt it would help much. Perhaps to you my vision for EvC Forum seems just a quixotic exercise in frustration where people try to convince the unconvinceable, but there are many discussion boards on the Internet where participants can hoot mocks and insults at each other, and it doesn't need one more. We won't be doing that here. Maybe this will help: If you wouldn't say it in an article you planned to submit to a technical journal, then don't say it here.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Maybe this will help: If you wouldn't say it in an article you planned to submit to a technical journal, then don't say it here. If there was such an organ as the International Journal Of Bullshit, and if they published an article entitled Why Making Up Dumb Nonsense Is A Good Substitute For A Valid Argument, With Special Reference To Telling Halfwitted Lies About Dr Adequate, then my letter to that periodical would, if anything, be even more scathing in tone than the words in which I have addressed Smooth Operator. If you will make all posts on this forum subject to fact-checking and peer-review, then I for my part will treat it as a technical journal. If, on the other hand, you are willing to let people post lies unchecked, then I may occasionally point out their errors.
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