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Author Topic:   A Discussion of the Rationalization of Slavery
Jazzns
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From: A Better America
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Message 4 of 50 (543095)
01-15-2010 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DevilsAdvocate
01-14-2010 11:25 PM


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Hi DA. If white people were pagans who boiled one another for dinner, barbariously tortured one another by scalping, disemboweling alive, sacrificicing their children and wives in fire to their gods, sold their enemies as slaves etc as pagan Native Americans and African blacks practiced, perhaps they too would have no true god to deliver them from their opressive govenments as was the case with the pilgrims.
I can't tell how this is any different from the thread about Pat Robertson rationalizing the earthquake in Haiti.
This also blatantly ignores the fact that a large number of native civilizations that were brutalized by America's burgeoning imperialism did NOT in fact do these things.
Moreover, extoling the pilgrims as rightous is insane! The pilgrims where just as brutal if not moreso than the natives!!!! To their OWN people!
I just absolutly cannot get over this part of the comment "... sold their enemies as slaves... " when in fact the most recent notable institutionalization of slavery came straight from European descendant, Christian America!
Then again, maybe Buz's argument is that black slaves were not our enemies, we just kidnapped them.
It is useful to point out to people who don't think that slavery in America was "that bad" that the incredible death rate of slaves during transport to America was a function of the economics of SCALE of human trafficing. It was WORTH IT for slave traders to load up ships with people such that more than half would die before they could even be sold. Cattle were very literally treated better than human beings by those supposidly being protected by the "one true god".
What is even more dumbfounding to me is who anyone can write that paragraph in any good conscious, let alone proclaim themselves an arbiter of what is good and fair in this world in light of it.
I am mind numbed by this....

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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Jazzns
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Message 35 of 50 (546340)
02-10-2010 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Taz
02-09-2010 1:23 AM


Just imagine what kind of fucked up country we'd be living in if people like buz are in charge.
And you just got back from which planet?

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson

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