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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3483 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined: |
Unfortunately, NCOs aren't always politically correct when trying to inspire troops. I feel many Christians are oblivious to diversity when it comes to religious affiliations or lack there of. I agree military leaders should not be putting a religious spin on the battle.
Trijicon said it has been longstanding company practice to put the Scripture citations on the equipment. Tom Munson, Trijicon's director of sales and marketing, said the company has never received any complaints until now. Our enemy has changed from 30 years ago. Our society has changed from 30 years ago. Non-Christians aren't keeping silent anymore. If the verse references do endanger our soldiers if captured, then they should be filed off the sites. They should ask the company to stop. They can pray all they want, but don't endanger the soldiers.
New Zealand has no problem removing the verses from the sites and requesting that the company not put it on their orders in the future.
Going to war in Afghanistan with Biblical citations stamped on their weapons is not appropriate for New Zealand soldiers, said defense force spokesman Maj. Kristian Dunne. U.S. manufacturer, Trijicon of Wixom, Michigan, would be instructed to remove the inscriptions on further orders of the gun sights and the letters would be removed from gun sights already in use by New Zealand troops, he said. The company should have left the colon out. It might not have been as noticeable to the enemy, but I'm sure someone would have leaked that bit of company trivia. I don't feel it is a difficult fix though.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
That's a European way of spelling it. Really? Never seen it spelled like that before.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2977 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Thanks Oni. But, truth be told, if it weren't for your great examples, I'd be more of a lurker than a poster. Glad to have helped. Here's the article from z.news I mentioned in the last post.
For those interested - (this is for you mostly Huntard, since your country doesn't mention this much) - in what US intentions in Afghanistan are: source From the article:
quote: I believe this needs repeating, to wake up a few sleepy folk out there reading this:
He didn't tell us that the same one-year amount, $100 billion, could cover the cost of ALL of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals: clean water, health care, primary education and vaccinations for the people of every one of the poorest 21 countries in the world. We can literally solve many domestic and global issues by ending that war and investing the money properly! Hope this lends weight to your position, Dronester. Also Huntard, since the news lacks in your country, you might enjoy this independent news site: Z-net. The articles are not left or right leaning, they are truth based and upfront with information. - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given. Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Good enough to repeat . . . again
All claims that the U.S. war was bringing democracy to Afghanistan, modernizing a backward country, and liberating Afghan women, are off the agenda He didn't tell us that the same one-year amount, $100 billion, could cover the cost of ALL of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals: clean water, health care, primary education and vaccinations for the people of every one of the poorest 21 countries in the world. [feigned surprise and disappointment, ON] Hmmm, the best interests of the masses didn't seem they were served. It seems politicians (both repub and dem) are not forced to be accountable for their decisions to hardly ANY degree. It seems our opinions are hardly considered (oh, perhaps only enough to be subject to manipulation and disinformation.) But one shouldn't overestimate how valueless even that small concession on the part of our "rulers" is. [feigned surprise and disappointment, OFF] Seriously, thanks for finding this article Oni, it was most appropriate for Huntards and my debate. d
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 827 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Trijicon, the gunsight maker that has imprinted Bible verse numbers on its scopes, has announced that it will no longer imprint the verses on the sides of scopes intended for the U.S. military, and will also provide clients with the kits to remove the Bible verse numbers from existing scopes.
Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said the Department of Defense "applauds the voluntary actions announced today by Trijicon." Morrell said the coded Bible reference were clearly inappropriate. Said Morrell, "It is not the policy of the Department of Defense to put religious references of any kind on its equipment." source But they were only numbers...... Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people -Carl Sagan For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.-Carl Sagan |
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Should the U.S. drop the contract? There is a conflict of interest, so the government should pursue an inquiry with the company and threaten to dissolve the contract for any further encoded inscriptions.
Is it, in fact, a violation of the seperation of church and state? No, because the US Marines did not manufacture the weapon and reasonably could not have known that encoded inscriptions existed until after the fact. Had the US Marines demanded that such verses be encoded on the serial numbers then, yes, that would have been a violation. "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams
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