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Author Topic:   Bin Laden and Al Gore are now two peas in a pod
John 10:10
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Message 1 of 138 (545022)
01-30-2010 10:56 PM


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Bin Laden blasts US for climate change
People of the world, it’s not right for the burden to be left on the mujahedeen (holy warriors) in an issue that causes harm to everyone, he said. Boycott them to save yourselves and your possessions and your children from climate change and to live proud and free.
http://blog.taragana.com/...boycott-of-us-goods-dollars-4727
PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
Edited by AdminModulous, : deleted chunks what was basically a huge copy/paste of an entire blog entry and put it into quotes to make it clear it wasn't John's original words.
Edited by John 10:10, : Re-edited and included only Bin Laden's comments. Surely his comments are not copywrited!

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John 10:10
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Message 7 of 138 (545045)
01-31-2010 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Coyote
01-30-2010 11:28 PM


PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
I will try ONCE, but I don't expect any here at the EVC forum have ears to hear.
Bin Laden and Al Gore are now two peas in a pod because Bin Laden has jumped on the "man-caused" global warming band wagon.
Understanding what the 911 attack was all about has been missed/misunderstood by most Americans. Bin Laden is still trying to destroy American and other western nation economies by any and all means possible, and now he has jumped on the Copenhagen/global warming band wagon to do so. "Boycott them to save yourselves and your possessions and your children from climate change and to live proud and free."
If Ben Laden can wait a little longer, the American economy will crumble from within with progressive Obamaism ruining our economy.

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John 10:10
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Message 35 of 138 (545821)
02-05-2010 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Buzsaw
02-04-2010 7:22 PM


Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
Consider this:
Ben Laden seeks to destroy American and other westrn nation economies by Jihadism in order to establish his view of Islam.
Al Goreism will destroy American and other westrn nation economies by cap & trade regulations that are not economical for the consumers, nor profitable for the suppliers.
I don't mind the ridicule. I do mind what will happen if either Jihadism or Goreism succedes!
PS - When 95% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere is non-man made, how can scientists be so sure that the 5% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere which is man made is causing climate change? If so, how do you explain the decline in global temps since 1998?
Edited by John 10:10, : added PS

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John 10:10
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Message 49 of 138 (545946)
02-06-2010 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Apothecus
02-05-2010 4:46 PM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule

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John 10:10
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Message 50 of 138 (545948)
02-06-2010 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Granny Magda
02-05-2010 5:13 PM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
When one doesn't have an argument, they always attack the messenger.
Yes, Gore lost the 2000 election, but won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize! Go figure! The true winner should have been Irena Shedler, if anyone cares what the Peace Prize should be about!
When two people supposedly fight for the same cause - save the world from man-caused global warming, they are still two peas in a pod.

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Message 91 of 138 (565982)
06-22-2010 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Son
02-06-2010 3:18 PM


Perhaps, but maybe not!
When's the last time you saw/heard of Islamic terrorists strapping bombs to themselves, blowing themselves up in a blaze of glory, taking as many Muslims & non-Muslims with them as they can, all the while yelling "Death to the gays!"

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Message 92 of 138 (565985)
06-22-2010 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Granny Magda
02-06-2010 3:19 PM


Equating Hitler with Christianity, I think not!
So when Hitler "supposedly" fights for the Bible and Christianity, as he indeed claimed, that makes you and him "peas in a pod"?
The key word here is "supposedly." Sadly, it's your supposition, not Hitler's, nor of history. Try reading a little Bonhoeffer, and how Hitler had him killed just a few weeks before Hitler knew his time was up. Hitler could not stand going into eternity with Bonhoeffer still alive. Bonhoeffer is now with his Lord Jesus Christ, and Hitler is with his lord Satan.
Edited by John 10:10, : changed subtitle

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John 10:10
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Message 94 of 138 (566006)
06-22-2010 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Son
06-22-2010 11:17 AM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
While it's true that Christians, Muslims and Jews will all come together on moral issues, such as opposing "special rights" for homosexuals, and declaring homosexuality is not God's norm for mankind and society.
But if you will look back at your post 51, you were equating fundamentalist christians with terrorists. Big difference! I do not see Islamic terrorists on a crusade against gays. Islamic terrorists do not care who they kill. Apparently they have no moral issues with killing men, women and children of every kind.

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John 10:10
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Message 98 of 138 (566037)
06-22-2010 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by ramoss
06-22-2010 12:16 PM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
You don't know anything about the Jewish religion, do you. I am not particularly shocked that you are totally and utterly ignorant about Jewish attitudes and Jewish faith.
On the other hand, boy, did Hitler hate those Gays. It goes along with his Christian beliefs.
Traditional Judaism considers homosexual acts as a violation of Jewish law (halakha). More progressive movements of Judaism believe homosexuality today was not understood when the Bible was written so the Biblical prohibition of homosexual acts needs to be adapted. I side with traditional Judaism.
As for Hitler's Christian beliefs, Hitler in no way entered into God's salvation allowing Jesus to be Lord of his life. Hitler persecuted those Christians that outwardly opposed him, especially Bonhoeffer whom he had killed just a few weeks before he committed suicide.

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John 10:10
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Message 99 of 138 (566040)
06-22-2010 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Son
06-22-2010 1:07 PM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
You haven't shown us where Islamic terrorists are on a specific crusade against gays. When you can show this, I will respond. Islamic terrorists are out the kill, steal and destroy anyone who get in their way, which is their primary agenda.
Fundamentalist Christians simply believe the practice of homosexuality is a sin as defined by God, as are the sins of adultry, and any other sex outside of marraige between a man and a woman.

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John 10:10
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Message 100 of 138 (566041)
06-22-2010 3:11 PM
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06-22-2010 1:12 PM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
I think you mean equal rights, not special rights.
No, I meant "special rights." There are sufficient laws on our books that give gays equal rights. All that's needed is for these laws to be fairly/effectively enforced.
If some believe gays do not have equal rights to marriage, if/when they can get the right to marraige under law, so be it.

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John 10:10
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Message 102 of 138 (566068)
06-22-2010 6:41 PM
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06-22-2010 4:09 PM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
In free societies, the gay marriage issue is determined by the constitutional laws of the land or state. This is the way it is in America. Tell us how France handles the gay marraige issue?
In Islamic societies that are not free, such as in many Muslim countries, the Koran/Shiria Law determines the gay marriage issue.
My beliefs are determined by God's revelation as revealed in the Bible, but I adhere to the laws of the land, unless they require me to violate my personal beliefs.

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John 10:10
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Message 106 of 138 (566202)
06-23-2010 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Dr Adequate
06-23-2010 1:49 AM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
So ... gay people already have the right to marry, but the judicial branch is ignoring this?
Gays have the right to marry when they are given that right under state laws. If you want to start a new thread about gay rights, do so.

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John 10:10
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Message 107 of 138 (566207)
06-23-2010 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Son
06-23-2010 4:10 AM


Two peas in a pod
To remind you, the argument you made was that since Al Gore and Ben Laden pretend to share a common cause (Global Warming), they are two peas in the same pod. Accordingly, since fundamentalists christians, fundamentalists muslims and terrorists share a common cause (anti-Gay rights), you guys are two peas in the same pod.
If you want to start a new thread about gays and their rights, do so.
All I tried to say in the beginning was this:
With all that's on Osama's agenda killing these days, for him to crawl on the man-caused climate change agenda with Al Gore seemed incredible.
Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

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John 10:10
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Message 109 of 138 (566229)
06-23-2010 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2010 3:27 PM


Re: Two peas in a pod
You know, Osama is not a stupid man, all his failings as a moral human being aside. He is known for spreading disinformation for the purpose of causing division.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is succeeding admirably?
Maybe so. When it comes to the public, perception is reality. But I'm in the truth game, not perceptions! Osama is in the desth game.
Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.

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