Larni writes:
The point is that Yahweh decides that these people need to be punished for no good reason!
Yahweh can do anything; he can achieve his aims without imposing all the horrible things that you say we should 'choose' to eradicate. This implies that it is our fault we can cure the plagues Yahweh plagues us with.
There seems to be two separate situations here;
1) people suffering due to accidents/natural disasters/illness
2) people suffering due to decisions made by themselves or by others.
Is this a fair conclusion?
Also, if you're saying that suffering is caused by God, is the opposite of that true as well? Sure there is suffering in the world, there is also a lot of happiness, even "natural happiness" - did you see the full moon several days ago? OMG! amazing! I understand that this specific conversation can be 'quicksand', I'm just trying to understand your whole position on the topic.
You are correct when you say "Yahweh can do anything", do you really want Him to do everything? Me? I like a good challenge, I like to compete, I like to build things with my own hands. I have failed, my Win-Loss is probably 50-50 and I have hit my thumb more than once. I will keep on keepin' on.
Could God create a world where there is no suffering? no pain? no death? Yes He can and that is what Jesus said He was going to go do.
This earth has suffering, this creation has trial, this world has temptation, in this universe WE get to decide whether we will accept God or reject Him. Do you think God suffers when somebody rejects Him?
I do NOT mean to imply that this is some sort of tit-for-tat relationship - ie Yahweh decides that if somebody rejects Him, thereby causing Him to suffer, that He will unleash some natural disaster. I'm saying that God created this world with endless possibilities and consequences.
I think we can agree that if a pharmaceutical company developed a cure for some illness but didn't make it available, that would be 'our' fault. Likewise, if a car company knew about a design defect that had proven to be fatal, but decided it would be cheaper to pay attorneys/lawsuits then to recall a million cars, that too would be 'our' fault.
Edited by 3DSOC, : spelling