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PaulK
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Message 31 of 138 (545735)
02-05-2010 2:12 AM
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02-04-2010 10:46 PM


Re: BSing The Thread
quote:
Imo, some of you people ought to be ashamed of your condescending attitude. It goes to show who is the more hateful, and it's not John 10:10, who has been likened to one as dangerous as murderous Ben Laden the mastermind of the death of over 3000 Americans and destruction of the worlds tallest towers, significantly affecting the economies of the entire planet. .
Since John 10:10 specifically started this thread to liken Al Gore to Osama Bin Laden it seems that this involves something of a double standard.

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Buzsaw
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Message 32 of 138 (545767)
02-05-2010 8:55 AM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
What I said to John 10:10 way back, relative to Al & Ben, for those who's messages imply otherwise:
My position:
Buzsaw writes:
Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule. Though they both have a man-caused global warming agenda, they do not share the same impetus.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Huntard
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Message 33 of 138 (545771)
02-05-2010 9:18 AM
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02-04-2010 2:54 PM


Re: PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
xongsmith writes:
Actually, I have it on special authority that Stalin believed that 2 + 2 = 3.999... instead of 4.
OMG! 0.9999..... goes on to infinity! This means that Obama is infinitely worse then those three!
He is a real communist nazi liberal dictator, isn't he!

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Coragyps
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Message 34 of 138 (545772)
02-05-2010 9:22 AM
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02-05-2010 8:55 AM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
None of this, of course, has a damn thing to do with the fact that Mr Gore and Mr bin Laden happen to both be speaking of a stark reality: all of our industrial and automotive effluvia are warming the planet and dropping the pH of the oceans. Buz and John, whether you like it or not, carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.

"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD

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John 10:10
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Message 35 of 138 (545821)
02-05-2010 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Buzsaw
02-04-2010 7:22 PM


Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
Consider this:
Ben Laden seeks to destroy American and other westrn nation economies by Jihadism in order to establish his view of Islam.
Al Goreism will destroy American and other westrn nation economies by cap & trade regulations that are not economical for the consumers, nor profitable for the suppliers.
I don't mind the ridicule. I do mind what will happen if either Jihadism or Goreism succedes!
PS - When 95% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere is non-man made, how can scientists be so sure that the 5% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere which is man made is causing climate change? If so, how do you explain the decline in global temps since 1998?
Edited by John 10:10, : added PS

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Apothecus
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Message 36 of 138 (545834)
02-05-2010 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by John 10:10
02-05-2010 3:51 PM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
Hey John 10:10.
When 95% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere is non-man made, how can scientists be so sure that the 5% of the CO2 emitted to the atmosphere which is man made is causing climate change? If so, how do you explain the decline in global temps since 1998?
Reference, please?
Thanks.

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Granny Magda
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Message 37 of 138 (545843)
02-05-2010 5:13 PM
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02-05-2010 3:51 PM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
Hi John 10:10
Er... I don't know how up to speed you are with current events, but...
Al Gore lost that election.
Yup. I'm pretty sure we're safe from him. Sorry to spoil your little apocalyptic fantasy.
I don't mind the ridicule.
Of course you don't. You simply;
1) say something idiotic.
2) Wait for everyone to call you an idiot.
3) Sit back and bask in smug self-satisfaction. After all, you've just proved your critics to be big mean meanies, so you must be right.
Sad.
Mutate and Survive

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Buzsaw
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Message 38 of 138 (545878)
02-05-2010 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Coragyps
02-05-2010 9:22 AM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
Coragyps writes:
carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.
Hi Coragyps. Perhaps that has a bearing on the fact that over the years my acerage has become like a jungle here in upstate NY. It appears that the plants are loving it.
As for global warming, perhaps we could use a little these days here in the Americas.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Coragyps
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Message 39 of 138 (545881)
02-05-2010 9:12 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
02-05-2010 9:01 PM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
It appears that the plants are loving it.
They are plants, Buz. That's what they breathe. Ask a coral how she likes increased CO2.

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Apothecus
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Message 40 of 138 (545886)
02-05-2010 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
02-05-2010 9:01 PM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
Hi Coragyps. Perhaps that has a bearing on the fact that over the years my acerage has become like a jungle here in upstate NY. It appears that the plants are loving it.
As for global warming, perhaps we could use a little these days here in the Americas.
The minute I tell myself that I need to quit just assuming I know what's in the minds of the far right because, by and large, it negatively colors my opinions of and responses to these folk, something like this comes along and smashes my desire to be inclusive.
I'm a pretty moderate guy, in my opinion. For instance, I can admit that, despite the mountains of evidence we see supporting global warming (can everyone at least agree worldwide temps have increased? Polar ice caps, anyone?), there still may not be enough data to conclusively prove that this isn't largely a natural cycle of the climate of the earth. That's not to say that we're not at least contributing to this fluctuation, but let's call that "neither here nor there."
But what chaps my ass is when (mostly) conservative-bent Limbaugh-lovers use this denial of rising temps, etc as an excuse to not only not attempt to decrease their own carbon emissions, but to consciously "buck the establishment" by doing the exact opposite. Everyone knows someone like this. Hey, plants love carbon, so let's go gas up the Hummer!
In the interest of full disclosure (as if that's required on an anonymous forum) I own two vehicles, one of which gets only 20mpg highway. I use more than my share of electricity. I'm not perfect. And, again, I can accept that there may just be not enough data for me to decide either way. But to me, if humans have anything at all to do with global warming, doesn't it make sense to at least try? Couldn't hurt, right?
The recalcitrance of (most) conservatives on this issue is mind boggling. I, for one, hope you were being at least a little sarcastic, Buz. If not, that's a lot pathetic.
Have a good one.

"My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. J.B.S Haldane 1892-1964

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Dr Adequate
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Message 41 of 138 (545889)
02-05-2010 11:07 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Buzsaw
02-05-2010 9:01 PM


Battle Born
As for global warming, perhaps we could use a little these days here in the Americas.
That depends on whether "the Americas" includes Nevada. You think, maybe, that as the ground temperature only gets up to 201 F on our best days, we need a little help? Just a little more and we could throw away our kettles and boil our water for free on the desert sand. Hurrah!

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Buzsaw
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Message 42 of 138 (545910)
02-06-2010 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Coragyps
02-05-2010 9:12 PM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
Coragyps writes:
They are plants, Buz. That's what they breathe. Ask a coral how she likes increased CO2.
If the planet survived the ice age, perhaps Ms Coral and other oxygen lubbing life will be so invigerated by all of the plant expelled oxygen that adaptation to the heat will not be a problem. Then too, who knows the Nevada desert may turn into a cactus or tropical jungle where there's lots of shade and water.
Further, perhaps the heat will make the atmosphere less dense as it warms and rises further into space such as it likely was before the flood, forming a nice greenhouse canopy over the planet, diming the sun a bit and moderating the planet's temps so that man can live hundreds of years as it was before the flood.
ABE: .........And as is implied in the Biblical prophecies relative to the emerging messianic millenium, requiring rather sudden climate change effected by global warming, now in the early stages of ever escalating climate change. The change will be rough, being the wrath of God time, so brace yourselves, ye yunguns, ole man Buz's Biblically inspired hypothesis will be vindicated and you'll see it!!
Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted
Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Huntard
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Message 43 of 138 (545913)
02-06-2010 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Buzsaw
02-06-2010 8:11 AM


Re: Responses Obfuscating My Position
Buzsaw writes:
so brace yourselves, ye yunguns, ole man Buz's Biblically inspired hypothesis will be vindicated and you'll see it!!
Being probably one of the youngest members here (I'm 27, though i think the current lyx2no is younger still), I'll make this prediction: I won't see it.
Wanna bet on who will be right?
Now returning to the OP. Gore is an Atheist Muslim! There, I said it, the horrible truth is out there!

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Message 44 of 138 (545914)
02-06-2010 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by John 10:10
02-05-2010 3:51 PM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
I thought it would be western dependency on oil and their indirect financing of fundamentalist muslims(and terrorists) by consuming oil that would harm the western nations the most.....
By the way, did it ever occur to you that depending on a limited ressource that will get more expensive as times go is not a good idea? Isn't a that safer way to destroy America? (and that's not even accounting for the fact that you need to import this ressource from more or less hostile regimes)

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Message 45 of 138 (545924)
02-06-2010 11:21 AM
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02-06-2010 9:48 AM


Re: Perhaps equating Al Gore to Ben Laden is where you set yourself up for ridicule
By the way, did it ever occur to you that depending on a limited ressource that will get more expensive as times go is not a good idea? Isn't a that safer way to destroy America? (and that's not even accounting for the fact that you need to import this ressource from more or less hostile regimes)
Good point. Let's build nuclear power plants--lots of them.
Oh, wait. The enviros won't let us.
OK, let's do space power satellites.
Oh, wait. Obama just canceled our planned heavy lift rocket.
OK, so let's put miles and miles of solar panels out in the deserts.
Oh, wait. The enviros won't let us do that either.
Any other suggestions?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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