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Author Topic:   Fred Williams goes down in flames... again
derwood
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Message 1 of 42 (5072)
02-19-2002 10:37 AM



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derwood
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Message 3 of 42 (5074)
02-19-2002 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
02-19-2002 10:58 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Percipient:
Fred's a member here, but last time we exchanged emails he said he was very busy playing a moderator role at OCW (Organization of Creationist Websites). But I suggest you let Fred know you've posted a rebuttal here and perhaps he'll reply. Naturally, just as you've already done, lengthy rebuttals should be linked to rather than posted in messages.

--Percy


That is interesting - he denied being a moderator at OCW after it was pointed out that the 'moderator' had preferentially gutted and deleted posts critical of Williams and his hero ReMine.

I will let him know, and I have have linked my rebuttal on several sites.


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derwood
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Message 5 of 42 (5153)
02-20-2002 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Fred Williams
02-19-2002 4:45 PM


*YAWN*

Williams is very good at making slanderous charges, but he is very bad at supporting them.

I suspect thart any actual reply will consist of aspersion casting, insults, and a continued insistence that Haldnae's dilemma is real and unsolved. Thats all he can do.

Of course, Williams complaining that I engage in flame wars is a gem - anyone with a hint of common sense can take a look at his ridiculous web site and see the irony of that charge.

BTW - what 'at least 3' boards did you have in mind?

You don't get banned anywhere because you only stay on boards that you have a modicum of control of (OCW), or that do not ban people (T.O.).

Your implication that the new 'OCW' board is less than Christian smacks of sour grapes and hypocrisy.

But, thats the best the virulent creationist can muster...


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derwood
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Message 7 of 42 (5183)
02-20-2002 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Mister Pamboli
02-20-2002 11:54 AM


Golly, I did not realize that we have an arbiter of all things worthy here.

Of course, you can always NOT READ THE POSTS.


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derwood
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Message 11 of 42 (5218)
02-21-2002 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by mark24
02-21-2002 9:49 AM


I know of no links to Haldane's 1957 paper, for the simple fact that it came out in 1957! I have a hard copy, and can mail a copy to you if you'd like.

As for the Rice and Chippindale paper, it can be found at the Science website (www.sciencemag.org) if you have a subscription.

The Genetics paper is available for free at the Genetics website. I don't have a link handy, but I will try to find it.

As for JP, I don't kow where he trolls now, though I did notice that he reposted the same stuff he posted here at the Baptist Board site.

I try to stay away from him. He is a psychotic, probably dangerous individual. He posted my home address and the name of one of my family members (as well as doing this to at least one other person I know of and possibly a third).

He's a wack job.


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derwood
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Message 22 of 42 (5410)
02-24-2002 3:36 PM


I fabricated nothing.

True, you did not write "This is so-and-so's address".

You did not need to.

It was apparent to everyone that read it what yu were doing - and of course who can forget the crack about 'not everyone drives through my town to go skiing'... Thinly veiled threats are thinly veiled threats.

But you are not worth worrying about and waasting time with on the internet.

Email me:

huxter4441@aol.com

and we can set up a meeting to work this all out.

As for the 'personal' thing with Fred, it is hard not to respond with flaming gibberish with an in-kind reply.

He is a post-and-runner now anyway, so there is nothing to worry about.


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derwood
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Message 27 of 42 (5460)
02-25-2002 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by John Paul
02-24-2002 5:02 PM


quote:
Originally posted by John Paul:
If you weren't such an abusive prick perhaps you wouldn't be so paranoid.


Email me

huxter4441@aol.com

and we can set up a meeting to work this all out.

I've grown quite tired of your rhetoric.


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derwood
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Message 38 of 42 (5551)
02-26-2002 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Percy
02-25-2002 11:24 AM


As my AOL inbox remains empty, I conclude that JP is comfortable hiding behind his computer and using macho rhetoric. Such is the life of the creationist, and I will not be responding to anything that he posts in the future, as it is typically a complete waste of time anyway, as most of you have probably noticed. Plus, I get the feeling that Pamboli ALWAYS has that smug feeling.

Anyway, I was hoping that at least one person would respond to my refutation of Williams. Not even Pamboli attempted to do that.

Instead, it seems the replies consist of comments about other peoples comments.

where is the discussion?


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