Jesus: Why I believe He was a failure.

He wasn't suppose to until the end times according to the prophets and according to his own words. His desciples asked him when the end times would be. He answered by corroborating the OT prophets that the Jews would be scattered globally and return in the latter days/end times.Jesus also answered the questions as to when his 2nd advent would be. He said after Jews scattered and return. When? After Jerusalem was no longer occupied by Gentiles. Go figure. Six Day War; 1967. Jews back in Jerusalem; Gentiles out. This all plus all of the other corroborating end time prophecies emerging into filfillment. Pd, until you come to grips with the reality of fulfilled prophecy, you'll never see Jesus as the messiah of the covenant and soon coming king of the messianic throne of Israel. You'll never understand who Jesus really is or his greatness.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Either way, we know they were scattered. The land did not becme nearly totally unoccupied by Jews and desolate waste until after 70 AD. None of the corroborating prophecies relative to end times had fulfilled until the modern restoration of Israel. Messiah did not die for the people as per the prophets. Nobody but Jesus fulfilled those prohecies. Nothing phenomenal happened until what we observe today. The latter day restoration was to be forever. The modern restoration is the only one that meets all of the criteria.Add up all of the evidence, admit to something supernatural; things that God does and go, figure, lest like the foolish virgins in Jesus's parable, the bridegroom comes and you miss it, not having oil in your lamp, so to speak.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

This is true, madear, but you need to understand when and where the prophecies have him ruling after he effects the salvation of the people via his vicarious suffering and death.You need to wake up and smell wonderful aroma of the prophecy coffee brewing in these last days corroborating the fact that messiah will indeed soon stand on the Mt of Olives having descended from Heaven to rule all nations upon the earth from Mt Zion/Temple Mt.Thus, the Lord's Prayer; "......thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven."

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Hi DA. I understand your frustration, much of which has been brought about by the failure of pastors, evangelists and teachers to corroborate all scriptures relative to the end times.The prophecies which are not for novices are often missconstrued by novices who fail to adequately corroborate the prophecies so as to arrive at the truth.I have been into the prophecies for over 60 years, since an early teenager when I became a Christian. I began by reading this book and that book on prophecy. It was not until I began corroborating the prophecies in the book, the Bible itself, that it became clear what to believe relative to the end times and the 2nd advent of Jesus, messiah.As for all of those bumbleheads who over the centuries made claims that the end times were at hand, they simply did not know what they were touting.RAZD presently has an ongoing thread on radiometric dating methodology. One of his arguments was corroborating the various methods of dating. Corroborated methods lend support, according to his claims, to the whole, including the questionable ones. Yet when harp about corroborating the harmonious whole of the scriptures, nobody seems to pay attention.According to the corroborated prophecies, the following events must either simultaneously be fulfilled or be emerging into fulfillemnt. This is of paramount importantance. Had you understood this, perhaps you would still be a Christian.1) Israel must have been dispersed globally and must have been restored as a nation. The more centuries that this failed to happen, the more likely it would be that it would indeed happen. But lo and behold, in 1948 (about the time I became a Christian) this phenomenal event was indeed fulfilled.2. Jerusalem (the old walled city) must be reoccupied by Jews and Gentiles out. Lo and behold, in the 1967 Six Day War, Gentiles ran out of the city and Jews marched in. This, 28 long years after the restoration of the nation.3. The itty bitty little restored nation must be smack dab in the middle of surrounding hostile nations. Check; happened4. The nations of the world must be drawn into the Middle East and Jerusalem must be a bone of contention to all nations. Check; happening5. Global government must be emerging into reality. Check; happening6. Global monetary systems of marks and numbers must be emerging to replace traditional gold and silver coinage, etc. Check; happening, the last of circulated silver money being in the 1960s (about the time of the end of Gentile occupation of Jesusalem).7. The gospel of Jesus must be preached globally as per the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 (known as the Olivet Discourse). Check. Happened; the Holy Bible being the all time best seller for decades etc.Consider that at the time of Jesus's prophecy, Christianity was a new little religion, regarded by the establishment as a passing cult.8. Knowledge and travel should increase phenominally as per Daniel 12. Happening big time, the industrial revolution, for the first time ushering in faster than horse and sail ship travel.9. Climate change must be observed. Check; happening.10. Christians hated and severly persecuted. Check; happening, especially in secular Communist, Muslim and some pagan nations11. A speaking image, implemented globally so as for all peoples to see a single event (high tech, if you will) must be implemented as per Revelation 11 and Revelation 17, for examples.12. Apostacy from Biblical principles, violence, disobedience to parents by children and moral decay must become globally increased. Check, big time.These come to mind off the top of my head. These all must be either in place or emerging before one can empirically declare that the end time is indeed happening. Go and figure, DA and all ye other skeptics. Return to Jesus before it's too late, my friend. Lindsey and Van Impe, to my knowledge have never set specific dates, but they all have failed to coroborate all of the prophecies in ariving at conclusions. They make the same mistake I began using years ago; of reading one another's books instead of corroborating scripture itself. According to Jesus's Olivet Discourse prophecy in Luke 21, the generation that sees what he prophesies will be the last; the most obvious the generation that sees the Jews march into the old walled city of Jerusalem and the Gentiles out, signs in the sky, etc. It appears, relative to that and what we observe that it will be sometime before 2050 and likely sooner. You can say, as you observe very bad times merging globally to further corroborate end time prophecies that you read it first at EvC.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.