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Author Topic:   Rapid Evolution in Lizards
RAZD
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Message 51 of 57 (547169)
02-16-2010 9:57 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by ICANT
04-25-2008 4:39 PM


Use real quotes please, not your opinion of what was said
Hi ICANT,
Saw this in another reply:
Speciation within a species is not macroevolution as RAZD pointed out to me that they are the same thing. If they are the same thing then there is no macroevolution.
By the definition of species, as soon as you have a speciation event you are no longer "within a species" -- it is the line between microevolution and macroevolution.
Before speciation evolution contributes to the development of variation within species.
After speciation evolution contributes to the divergence and differentiation between the daughter species, but this occurs by evolution within each daughter species.
If you are going to attribute something to me, please use actual quotes with references to the actual messages so that people can read the context as well as have an accurate representation of what was said.
Creos look at macroevolution as transmutation or when one critter becomes a totaly different critter.
And as this is not something that is NOT included in the whole science of evolution, it remains a creationist fantasy, based on a false definition of "macroevolution," and it doesn't matter what creationists think because they are wrong.
To my knowledge this has never been documented, and no evidence presented in favor of such an event. It must be accepted by faith that all the little changes over a long period of time can accumulate to the point that it has to take place.
And real world evolution predicts that you will never see this "transformation" occur, no matter how long you wait. In fact, seeing such an instance would tend to disprove evolution than validate it.
Evolution does not occur within individual organisms, it occurs within populations of organisms with variations in their hereditary traits while they remain breeding populations.
The evolution seen in here in a lizard species is macroevolution as defined and used by biologists and evoutionist. It is speciation and subsequent evolution to diverge from the parent population, and it creates another branch on the tree of common descent.
Enjoy.
Edited by RAZD, : clrty

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