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Author Topic:   Bin Laden and Al Gore are now two peas in a pod
RAZD
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Message 9 of 138 (545047)
01-31-2010 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by nwr
01-31-2010 10:40 AM


Re: PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
Hi nwr, long time no see.
Bin Laden and John 10:10 are two peas in a pod, because they both breath. So John 10:10 should stop breathing so as to clearly differentiate himself from Bin Laden.
They are also peas in a pod for blaming science and knowledge for the changes in society, claiming that western society is corrupted away from the values of their religion/s.
They are also peas in a pod for being fundamentalist fanatics. John 10:10 is closer to Bin Laden than Gore in many ways.
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RAZD
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Message 84 of 138 (547176)
02-16-2010 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Apothecus
02-16-2010 10:16 PM


Re: A bit 'o referential misrepresentation
Hi Apothecus,
This is pretty much my position these days, as well. Like I said, the jury's still out on climate change: whether it exists and if it does exist, why?
It's hard to argue with rising sea levels permanently flooding land areas that were cultivated in the recent past.
India's Sacred Sagar Island Is Shrinking Away : NPR
quote:
Varun Pyke has come to the edge of the Indian island where he has spent all 50 years of his life, to recount the story of the riches that he has now lost.
He gloomily jabs a finger out toward the water, pointing well beyond the gray waves lapping on the shores of the long, wide beach on which he is standing.
A mile or two out, there lies what used to be his farm, explains Pyke, a wiry man in a vest and wraparound "lunghi."
He says he had 5 acres, all now part of the seabed.
Rising water levels compelled Pyke to move inland; now he has only 2 acres to farm, barely enough to survive.
Pyke lives on Sagar Island, off the east coast of India. It is part of the Sundarbans, a giant low-lying archipelago that straddles India and Bangladesh, fanning out into the Bay of Bengal.
I'd say it is pretty well established that climate change is a fact.
There is also little doubt in my mind that human behavior from the beginning of agriculture (~10,000 bce) has contributed to this, accelerating as the production of pollution has increased.
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RAZD
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Message 86 of 138 (547232)
02-17-2010 12:48 PM
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02-17-2010 12:07 PM


Re: A bit 'o referential misrepresentation
Hi again Apothecus,
... though I also believe much work needs be done toward proving that a natural cycle of the earth's climate doesn't share at least part of the blame for rising temperatures.
I think it does, but that this is really irrelevant to the question of whether or not we want to live in a warmed up flooded world with different weather patterns (what happens to northern climate if the jet stream changes substantially?), and what can we do to accommodate some inevitable change?
But then, you know, what do you think would happen should the world's population somehow change enough of our habits and lifestyles to reverse the warming trend?
IMH(ysa)O the biggest change we could make would be to world population, and it may be that local extinctions will go a long way to that answer.
But then, you know, what do you think would happen should the world's population somehow change enough of our habits and lifestyles to reverse the warming trend? The global warming deniers would then deny that there was ever a problem at all, that the climate trend reversed itself on its own.
I'm looking to see some speciation events as well as mass extinctions. Could be interesting times (as the old Chinese curse has it).
Enjoy.

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