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Author Topic:   Bin Laden and Al Gore are now two peas in a pod
Hyroglyphx
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Message 13 of 138 (545332)
02-03-2010 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by John 10:10
01-31-2010 10:27 AM


Re: PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
If Ben Laden can wait a little longer, the American economy will crumble from within with progressive Obamaism ruining our economy.
Your theory may very well be true, but lets be honest here and admit that this is nothing more than unsubstantiated conjecture.
You don't like bin Laden or Al Gore, found some miniscule similarity and decided to draw parallels that otherwise have nothing to do with one another.
As RAZD wisely alluded to, you would likely find more similarity between bin Laden and say, someone like Jerry Falwell than you would bin Laden and Al Gore.
I say that not defending Al Gore in any way as I think the man is more concerned with his legacy than anything else.
But your comments seem loaded and a stretch of the imagination.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 16 of 138 (545482)
02-03-2010 8:21 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Huntard
02-03-2010 8:17 AM


Re: PS - Maybe now some will understand what 911 was all about!
Since we're dealing with addition anyway....
Stalin and Pol Pot also believed this!
Meaning that Obama = Hitler + Stalin + Pol Pot
OMG!
Oh, the similarities don't end there my friend. Oh no, no, no, they don't end with simple mathematics. You know what else I just discovered? All of them (and I do mean all of them) eat food. Yeah, I know.... Imagine that... They ALL eat or ate when they were alive.
Clearly there is a conspiracy.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 24 of 138 (545698)
02-04-2010 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Apothecus
02-04-2010 7:59 PM


Re: BSing The Thread
I think the problem lies with the fact that not many of us rational-minded folk can see a "pertinent" or "addressable" topic point, other than the fact that Bin Laden is, y'know, bad.
The rest of it is ridiculous. That is, subject to ridicule.
Amen to that.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 82 of 138 (547167)
02-16-2010 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Apothecus
02-07-2010 8:05 PM


Re: A bit 'o referential misrepresentation
I admit the jury is still out on exactly what it's doing up there, but I tend to lean toward the IIPC's findings over the years, although you'll probably deem them bunk, as they shared part of Al Gore's Peace Prize. (insert ad hominem attack here) Like I said before, even if you're not one of the brazenly ignorant folk who ignores sound science in favor of a politically biased opinion (aka you're on the fence), what could possibly stop you from at least trying to decrease those pollutants which are supposedly increasing the temperature on our planet?
There is nothing wrong with cleaning the environment. We should seek to reduce emissions. Even supposing it isn't linked to ozone depletion, we're still breathing in smog which no one would say is good for us.
The problem that I personally have with the whole movement is that for many it has all the characteristics of a religion and has been used as a tool for extortion. The demagogues of this religion refer to the "fence sitters" as apostates and infidels (even if they don't use that terminology, that's the allusion). The hysteria is grossly exaggerated which generate unethical profits through panic.
The whole "carbon credit" scam is EXACTLY like tithing in any religion. You feel bad about your sins (the cleansing of one's conscience of their eco-sins in this instance) and "offset your emissions."
The prophet (profit) Al Gore is the ring leader in this circus.
Now, yes, there are ignorant people who only go against it because their party or affiliations do not endorse it. That is just as stupid. But that very much goes BOTH ways.
And because it has become so politicised, I can't trust anyone just yet. It's my opinion that not sitting on the fence to some degree and not being an open-minded skeptic is doing the greatest disservice since there is no smoking gun in either direction. The debate is open, the research is still in effect, and until solid, unbiased evidence is presented, I will remain an open-minded skeptic.
And no, this is not an invitation for everyone on EvC to start posting bar graphs. Save your bandwidth and spare me the song and dance.
I'm just making a statement here about what I see and why I am not pro or con anthropogenic global warming.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 88 of 138 (547280)
02-17-2010 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Apothecus
02-16-2010 10:16 PM


Re: A bit 'o referential misrepresentation
I heartily enjoy poking holes in either side, especially when confronted by a ridiculous radical like J10:10 and his bullshit.
John is likely fed propaganda from the pulpit and his favorite news source which tells him what he wants to hear rather than the way it actually is, so there's little chance of objectivity there.
Finding parallels between bin Laden and Al Gore is absurd. Nuff said there.
It's tough though. I mean, the climate is not something that should be politicized and yet it is. A sad state of affairs my friend.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 89 of 138 (547282)
02-17-2010 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by ZenMonkey
02-17-2010 2:00 PM


Re: A bit 'o referential misrepresentation
As I see it, it's only politicised for the same reason that evolution is "controversial."
Evidence overwhelmingly supports the reality of anthropogenic climate change. The "controversy" is generated by those with a vested interest in the current petroleum-based economy, and is eaten up by right-wing dupes who like to assert the sort of nonsense that j10:10 spewed out in the OP.
I disagree that there is overwhelming evidence on either side of the aisle.
There seems to be evidence of suppression on the right end of the spectrum and exaggeration on the left side of the spectrum.
If you want to know where the truth is, follow the money
Exactly the problem. Billions of dollars exist in the cottage industry of oil. The new enterprise these days is billions of dollars generated from the ecological market.
Both sides have vested interests, which further clouds judgment.
and pay attention to who's lying. Who do you really think has been lying?
Both sides.
There are also people on both sides that are used as pawns. People like you or I have nothing to gain monetarily from this, yet both sides want your support to further the cause. Certainly not all people are oil barons or eco-terrorists. But both want us to side with their brand of ideology.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 97 of 138 (566013)
06-22-2010 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by John 10:10
06-22-2010 12:04 PM


Re: Perhaps, but maybe not!
While it's true that Christians, Muslims and Jews will all come together on moral issues, such as opposing "special rights" for homosexuals, and declaring homosexuality is not God's norm for mankind and society.
I think you mean equal rights, not special rights.
But if you will look back at your post 51, you were equating fundamentalist christians with terrorists. Big difference! I do not see Islamic terrorists on a crusade against gays. Islamic terrorists do not care who they kill. Apparently they have no moral issues with killing men, women and children of every kind.
They go after all apostates, including homosexuals.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 108 of 138 (566212)
06-23-2010 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by John 10:10
06-23-2010 3:14 PM


Re: Two peas in a pod
With all that's on Osama's agenda killing these days, for him to crawl on the man-caused climate change agenda with Al Gore seemed incredible.
You know, Osama is not a stupid man, all his failings as a moral human being aside. He is known for spreading disinformation for the purpose of causing division.
Did you ever stop to think that maybe he is succeeding admirably?

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 119 of 138 (566331)
06-24-2010 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by John 10:10
06-23-2010 3:56 PM


Re: Two peas in a pod
When it comes to the public, perception is reality. But I'm in the truth game, not perceptions! Osama is in the desth game.
I don't think you quite understand what I mean. Maybe you (not you specifically, but as many people like you) bashing Gore and having others side with Gore is the goal. Perhaps he's trying to win hearts and minds, or maybe, just maybe, there's no connection at all.
I mean, I could find more similarities between Osama and you quicker than I could Osama and Gore. You and Osama are religious fanatics bent on world domination. You and Osama want everyone in the world to think and behave as you do.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 120 of 138 (566332)
06-24-2010 9:41 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by John 10:10
06-23-2010 5:23 PM


Re: Two peas in a pod
What I'm against are Muslim terrorists, fundamentalist Muslims, and fundamentalist Christians killing gays and non-gays just because they don't agree with their beliefs and lifestyles. The only groups worldwide I find doing this on a consistant basis are the first two groups.
Well, then you know nothing of history, Crusader.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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