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Message 72 of 138 (545999)
02-07-2010 4:47 AM

Reply to: Message 71 by Rrhain
02-07-2010 4:43 AM

Huh? Who said anything about building them out in the desert? Why do we have to build them out in the desert? There's plenty of space in the urban areas we currently occupy that would handily accept solar panels. There's no reason that most every municipal building can't be set up to have solar panels installed and there should be heavy incetives to get private buildings to invest in them, too.

The biggest complaint about that? They're ugly. Who cares what good they do: they are unsightly. Same with the reason for not wanting to put windmills along the east coast: "we don't want to see those gawdy things out of our beach front property window"

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people
-Carl Sagan

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Message 74 of 138 (546003)
02-07-2010 5:05 AM

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02-07-2010 5:00 AM

Says who? You? Why should we believe you?

You're awful defensive. I wasn't saying that's how I feel, I was saying that is what I have heard as the main complaint.

And on a building that's so much taller than you, what makes you think you'd even see them?

I, personally, would love to see them up there. But again, your rebuttal was misguided.

And we believe them why? The wind farm outside Palm Springs is beautiful. Especially at night when the warning lights start flashing.

I'm sure they are....

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Message 90 of 138 (547370)
02-18-2010 7:27 PM

I was driving to my mother-in-law's house early this month (maybe late last month, I can't remember the date). She lives on a small lake (lake Como, in between Delavan and Lake Geneva). The deepest point in the lake is maybe 15 feet. we actually go out past the weed beds in the summer and toss the football (that's about a third of the way in). There was a sign up for the annual ice-fishing tournemant. I chuckled because the lake was thawed out!. Here it is, end of January, early February, and this little ass lake is thawed out. The weather is JUST fine!

Luckily, the lake froze over in time for the tourney: well enough for planes, trucks, four-wheelers and snowmobiles to drive on.

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Message 118 of 138 (566300)
06-24-2010 3:52 AM

Reply to: Message 112 by John 10:10
06-23-2010 4:40 PM

Re: Two peas in a pod

I invite all of you climate change deniers to a wine tasting in my garage. With my car running. Oh, and the doors are closed. If you live, you can have a barbecue next to my natural gas well, sans protective clothing.

Sound good?

Do you honestly think pumping chemicals into the atmosphere has no effect?

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Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
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Message 123 of 138 (566755)
06-26-2010 6:45 PM

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06-26-2010 9:12 AM

Re: Two peas in a pod

Ok. I'll sit in your garage with a cow while you sit in my garage with my car running. Who's going to die here?

If you had to guess, would you say that there are more or less stock animals than cars? (don't forget to calculate India and China). That's not even factoring in all of the coal plants, the natural gas wells that spew toxic shit into the air as well as pollute the groundwater, and all of the other types of petroleum processing facilities that burn off shit into the air.

You see, earth is ok with animals because life has evolved to live here. Animals and people exhaling gases is natural because we have *GASP* plants and trees that use those gases to convert into O2. What is NOT natural is all of the other pollutants that are burned off as a result of the aforementioned processes.

So again I say: would you prefer to be stuck in a garage with a cow (or even multiple cattle) or a running car?

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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Message 127 of 138 (566828)
06-28-2010 4:08 AM

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06-26-2010 9:12 AM

Scientific Expertise Lacking Among 'Doubters' of Climate Change, Says New Analysis

ScienceDaily writes:

"When you look at the leading scientists who have made any sort of statement about anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change, you find 97 percent of those top 100 surveyed scientists explicitly agreeing with or endorsing the IPCC's assessment," he said. That result has been borne out by several other published studies that used different methodology, as well as some that are due out later this summer, he said.

ScienceDaily writes:

"We really wanted to bring the expertise dimension into this whole discussion," Anderegg said. "We hope to put to rest the notion that keeps being repeated in the media and by some members of the public that 'the scientists disagree' about whether human activity is contributing to climate change."

And to dispel the "hive mind" BS about science and scientists:

William Anderegg writes:

"When you stop to consider whether some sort of 'group think' really drives these patterns and could it really exist in science in general, the idea is really pretty laughable," he said. "All of the incentives in science are exactly the opposite.

"If you were a young researcher and had the data to overturn any of the mainstream paradigms, or what the IPCC has done, you would become absolutely famous," he said. "Everyone wants to be the next Darwin, everyone wants to be the next Einstein."

Source

So yea, it's pretty much only morons who think man has NOT caused climate change.

"A still more glorious dawn awaits
Not a sunrise, but a galaxy rise
A morning filled with 400 billion suns
The rising of the milky way"
-Carl Sagan

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