Eusebius the Liar? - Pious Fraud Endorsed to Advance Christianity

Hi Jazzns, interesting thread.I don't know much about this, but isn't it the case that only parts of the TF are in doubt (with most scholars)? Bits like "He was the Christ" and the stuff about the resurrection are thought to be fraudulent additions, but the rest could well be real.Mutate and Survive

Thanks for the reply Jazzns,here is the text. I think the green sections are pretty obviously interpolations, the yellow I find somewhat dubious.

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Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.

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It's pretty obvious that Josephus would not have said that Jesus was Christ, nor that he rose from the dead. Anyone who believed that would be an idiot not to convert to Christianity immediately, which Josephus did not do.As for the rest I wouldn't like to say. I simply don't have the expertise. The fact that Eusebius advocated lying certainly places some doubt on the TF and raises the suggestion that he was responsible for the interpolations, but that is merely speculation.Mutate and Survive

Yeah, Agreed, it sounds unlikely. Perhaps Josephus did not consider Jesus to be a heretic and saw him as a Jewish holy man, but I do agree that this is questionable.As to linguistics clues, I think I have to step aside for someone who knows what they're talking about. Mutate and Survive