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Author Topic:   Who won this evolution/ID debate?
Wounded King
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Message 21 of 29 (548228)
02-26-2010 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Stile
02-26-2010 9:51 AM


Re: Showmanship vs. Facts
Academic debate is not something that happens in a given venue where showmanship is neccessary like in a debating contest. Academic debate is an ongoing process in the published literature and at conferences and symposia all over the world.
What you describe as an academic debate is more a sort of formal debating contest like the English Speaking Union runs.
There may have been a time when Academic debate could be run somewhat along those lines under the auspices of organisations like the Royal Society, but now there are so many academics in so many fields, especially in the sciences, that the most substantial arena for debate is in the published literature. One might argue that there is a degree of showmanship in producing a well crafted research paper but the ideal is that it is the research itself that is compelling.
And when it comes to compelling research the ID/creationist camp are nowhere.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Message 26 of 29 (548240)
02-26-2010 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Species8472
02-26-2010 10:29 AM


Re: Showmanship vs. Facts
No, I think such academic debate in an arena is still possible nowadays. The only catch is we shouldn't have a time limit for presentations and responses. Again, we can't expect an expert to present his side of the story in 10 minutes and we can't expect his opponent to respond in 30 seconds. That's just not realistic with the body of knowledge we have today. And the audience also have to be qualified experts, not just Joe Smith from 31st street.
I'm not sure how what you are describing is distinct from what goes on regularly at various academic conferences, although in those cases the 'opponents' may be speaking months apart to substantially different audiences.
Could you be more specific what sort of arena you are thinking of?
TTFN,
WK

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