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Buzsaw
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Message 61 of 245 (548833)
03-02-2010 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Coyote
03-02-2010 12:39 AM


Re: Constitutional Republic...
Coyote writes:

Buz, we live in a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

I'm well aware of that, Coyote. That's why I've alluded to the people's elected reps.

ABE: The Constitution does not forbid the exercise of religion in government facilities.

Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted. & update message title.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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subbie
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Message 62 of 245 (548834)
03-02-2010 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Buzsaw
03-01-2010 11:57 PM


Re: Communist Religious Persecution
Buz writes:

DC85 writes:

atheistic and secular is an oxymoron. Most atheists support a secular position however. A secular System protects everyone's freedom

No it doesn't. It denys religious people the freedom to exercise religion relative to whatever extent the elected reps decide upon.

Where in the fuck, you blithering moron, did you ever get the daft notion that elected officials have any right to make any decisions about our freedom to exercise religion, you brain dead, godstapo mutherfucker?

(Pardon my french)


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat


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Theodoric
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Message 63 of 245 (548835)
03-02-2010 12:49 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 12:35 AM


Obama radical?
Hey, if a radical Obama can get elected

Please show how in your warped mind he is a radical.

because he is black? Because is father was raised a moslem?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 64 of 245 (548836)
03-02-2010 12:52 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 12:44 AM


Re: Communist Religious Persecution
So what do you think of schools having islamic or buddhist prayers. How about if teachers lead the kids in hindu devotiosn? Is that ok?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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subbie
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Message 65 of 245 (548837)
03-02-2010 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 12:48 AM


Re: A secular system...
Buz writes:

I'm well aware of that, Coyote. That's why I've alluded to the people's elected reps.

You're aware of fuckall, you drooling excuse for a sentient being. A Constitutional republic means that all people, even those with nothing more than a functioning brainstem, such as yourself, have rights that the majority cannot take away, no matter how many of them you pile up in one place.

It utterly amazes me that you were able to amass such a collection of wrong ideas in just 70 years. You must have been taking graduate level stupid courses since you were 3.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat


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DC85
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Message 66 of 245 (548838)
03-02-2010 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 12:28 AM


Re: A secular system...
someone's ox is going to be gored.
Why? Why is it hard for you as a Christian to have the same rights as everyone else? How is telling a Teacher that thye can pray but they may not lead a class with people from every walk of life in a prayer? The only thing getting gored is your ability to push your beliefs on everyone in a state facility.

Some of us would like some balance in the classroom so as to teach the positives and negatives of all beliefs.
Ok then all beliefs must be taught... I do hope you have a while because we need to teach all religious beliefs now. Not just yours

so long as that's what the majority wants.
It doesn't matter what the majority wants in these issues these a guaranteed rights and in order to protect them the government must stay neutral. The Bill of rights exist to protect some minorities from the majority.

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Edited by DC85, : spelling

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Buzsaw
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Message 67 of 245 (548840)
03-02-2010 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Theodoric
03-02-2010 12:52 AM


Re: Communist Religious Persecution
Theodoric writes:

So what do you think of schools having islamic or buddhist prayers. How about if teachers lead the kids in hindu devotiosn? Is that ok?

If you go back and read me, Theodoric, I've already adressed that question.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 68 of 245 (548841)
03-02-2010 1:01 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 12:48 AM


Re: Constitutional Republic...
The Constitution does not forbid the exercise of religion in government facilities.

OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. It forbids the forbidding of it. That is one of the many reasons why it is not in fact forbidden.


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Theodoric
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Message 69 of 245 (548842)
03-02-2010 1:01 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 1:00 AM


Re: Communist Religious Persecution
Sorry been away a while. Not caught up and I am sure you cant be bothered to answer a simple question.
Oh well I expect nothing more from you


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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subbie
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Posts: 3509
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Message 70 of 245 (548846)
03-02-2010 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Dr Adequate
03-02-2010 1:01 AM


Re: Constitutional Republic...
I expect at any moment, for reasons that should be clear to anyone reading this thread, to spend some time in the corner. In the event that a thread opens up for POTM nominations before my time has run, would someone please nominate Dr. Adequate's concise but thorough refutation on my behalf?

Thank you.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat


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Buzsaw
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Message 71 of 245 (548847)
03-02-2010 1:12 AM


Re: What Use To Be
One thing this thread has demonstrated is how America has changed in the last 60 years. There was a day when the Buz statements here would be understood and accepted by the majority.

I pitty ye yunguns. Brace youselves for what's coming. I pray for you all. It's notagona be pretty for America, nor for the planet, for that matter due to global apostacy in general. The end times are upon the planet as Jesus readies himself for the soon to come 2nd advent. The 2000 millennium will become the messianic millennium. God/Jehovah said it so I can guarrantee it. Call me a liar now, but I shall be vindicated in the not too distant by and by.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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subbie
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Message 72 of 245 (548848)
03-02-2010 1:18 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 1:12 AM


Re: What Use To Be
It's not "What Use To Be," you illiterate baboon! It's "What Used To Be."

If you're going to insist on saying imbecilic things, would you at least do me the courtesy of learning to speak the fucking language better than a 4 year old?

Srsly!

{AbE}

While I'm at it....

It's whose, not who's and loser, not looser in message 15. And message 51!

"purpose of these were" should be "purpose of these was" in message 31.

It's denies, not denys in message 48.

And all of that just in this thread!

And stop saying "relative to." They're weasel words.

For the love of Strunk and White, take a remedial class in grammar. Actually, you'll probably need to take two, one to unlearn all of your cretinous errors and the second to learn the right way to speak.

Edited by subbie, : as noted.

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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson

For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat


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Coyote
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Posts: 6117
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Message 73 of 245 (548849)
03-02-2010 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 1:12 AM


Re: What Use To Be
Buz, the "end times" have been predicted almost annually for about 2,000 years. Probably more often of late.

The only consistent fact is that those predictions have all been wrong. Every last one of them. And in every case, there were a number of people, sometimes a lot of people, who believed just as strongly as you do.

But you are the best argument I've heard lately for fighting to keep a secular state. I really would not like to see young children exposed to your brand of belief. It would be healthier to let them run with sharp objects.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Dr Adequate
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Member Rating: 7.3


Message 74 of 245 (548850)
03-02-2010 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Buzsaw
03-02-2010 1:12 AM


Re: What Use To Be
One thing this thread has demonstrated is how America has changed in the last 60 years. There was a day when the Buz statements here would be understood and accepted by the majority.

If you're thinking of the Salem Witch Trials, then I would venture to suggest that even they wouldn't have swallowed your crap.

I pitty ye yunguns. Brace youselves for what's coming. I pray for you all.

If your prayers were at all effective, you wouldn't be reduced to screaming about how much you hate everything on the Internet.

The 2000 millennium will become the messianic millennium.

... though perhaps a little late. Apparently punctuality is not one of God's virtues.

Call me a liar now, but I shall be vindicated in the not too distant by and by.

If you'd care to place a more precise date on that, I'm up for a little wager.


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Taz
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From: Zerus
Joined: 07-18-2006


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Message 75 of 245 (548851)
03-02-2010 1:37 AM


Let's all take a breath and notice something. Everyone's popularity points have gone down because of this thread.

Added by edit.

Except for mine. It actually went up by 0.3.

Edit again.

Dr. A's went down by 0.6.

Just an observation.

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