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Author Topic:   Doesn't the distance of stars disprove the young earth theory?
Theodoric
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Message 9 of 138 (549038)
03-03-2010 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Flyer75
03-03-2010 11:15 AM


Re: No and yes
Quite frankly, we have no clue what the speed of light is in another galaxy.

Do you mean another universe? Or do you want to stick with galaxy here?

If you are sticking with galaxy, I am sure the hard science, physics guys here are going to have a field day tearing this apart.


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Message 11 of 138 (549041)
03-03-2010 11:36 AM
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03-03-2010 11:27 AM


Now you seem to be more confused
The Milk Way is just one galaxy of millions in our Universe. By galaxies I am not just referring to the Milk Way(Why doesn't someone name another galaxy, snickers or three musketeer).

My question is, when you make the statement that we don't know the speed of light in other galaxies, do you mean the other galaxies in our Universe? Like the Andromeda galaxy and the Large Magellanic Cloud. These are galaxies observable from our vantage point.

Or are you acknowledging the existence of other Universes? For example a parallel universe? A universe with possible different scientific laws and totally distinct and separate form our universe. Unobservable to say.


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Theodoric
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Message 16 of 138 (549085)
03-03-2010 10:09 PM
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03-03-2010 11:27 AM


So, what did you mean
Galaxy or Universe?
Because they are drastically different things. The answer will give us a much better idea of where you are coming for and what you truly understand about cosmology.

Edited by Theodoric, : punctuation


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Theodoric
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Message 24 of 138 (549151)
03-04-2010 10:54 AM
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03-04-2010 8:37 AM


Re: So, what did you mean
So you believe in alternate universes?
I guess this is the first time I ever heard of a YEC that believed in alternate universes. Is this a belief brought on by understanding the physics arguments for or a gut feeling type of thing?

How would the physical laws in another universe have any bearing on the physical laws(universe) of this universe?

I know we are getting into an very theoretical part of science here, but I just don't understand what your original statement has to do with the topic.

Quite frankly, we have no clue what the speed of light is in another galaxy. It might be the same as here on earth...it may be a ton less or a ton more...who knows?

We know what the speed of light is throughout our universe. It doesn't matter if you go to a galaxy beyond the perception of any instrument we have, the speed of light is the same there as it is here. I can not explain the physics to you, but others here can. If the speed of light fluctuates then the basic laws of physics would have to fluctuate and that would be bad. Basically the universe couldn't exist.

Now the speed of light in another universe would have no bearing on this topic. This is because the most distant stars and galaxies in our universe are still in our universe. Still beholden to the same laws.

Just some quick advice. This is not meant to be condescending or rude. Know the basics of your subject before you post on it. It will save you and others a lot of time wasted trying to figure out what you mean. I am not a hard science guy. The science guys here have taught me more than I ever knew before. Open up your mind. Understand that there are things in the realm of science that you will never truly understand, but there are others out there that do. Just because you don't understand the nitty gritty doesn't mean it isn't correct. If it is too simple it probably isn't correct.


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Message 112 of 138 (575396)
08-19-2010 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by ICdesign
08-19-2010 8:06 PM


Use peek
If you sue peek you can see the image is from wiki. I typed in solar life scycle and it sent me to Stellar evolution that shows the image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_evolution

Simple really.


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