Flyer75 writes:
. . . but whether man is choosing science or God. That's why theistic evolutionists really baffle me. I can understand the atheist more then I can the Christian who feels the need to have science prove "God" and creation. . .
But I, as well as most other theistic evolutionists, don't feel the need to have science prove "God." I need science to understand natural phenomena. I need God to understand things beyond the natural. Of course we can not use the natural sciences to prove the existence of something supernatural. And the existence of the supernatural is more of a philosophical question than a naturalistic one. Hence, philosophy should be used to question the supernatural and methodological naturalism should be used to question the natural. And honestly, I'm still too young and not well read enough to completely understand if and when the two intersect. That is why I believe faith is an evidence of things unseen and science is the methodological collection of evidence of things seen.
The ID crowd and the Creationists (young earth and old) are the ones claiming that science must hold to their current beliefs of God. For most theistic evolutionists God is not a cosmic tinkerer constantly adjusting his little machine in order to fix it. Most theistic evolutionists have a view of God that sees Him creating a masterful plan without the need to tinker.
This doesn't mean that I'm a determinist either. There is no need to say that God demanded that the higher lifeforms capable of pondering questions of His existence needed to be primates or even mammals. But I do think that many evolutionists agree that at some point, even if it took another billion years, our niche would be filled. Maybe this makes me more of a naturalist and deist when it comes to natural phenomena. However, I still feel that God acts in this world, although rarely. I believe those actions even more rarely transpire in the physical world that we can observe.