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Author Topic:   Did God say it, or did you say it?
Theodoric
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Message 61 of 127 (548908)
03-02-2010 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Flyer75
03-02-2010 9:28 AM


Re: actually...it's not that simple
But, the Jewish transcribers were meticulous in their translations.
Evidence please. Anyone can make unsupported assertions, please evidence this. I have facts and figures.
How do you explain the difference between the Septuagint and the Masoretic texts. The Dead Sea scrolls clearly show that there were at least a few versions. Some the scroll agree with the Masoretic, some with the Septuagint and others differ from both.
As shown in The Text of the New Testament, Kurt Aland, Barbara Aland, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1995 -->The Text of the New Testament, Kurt Aland, Barbara Aland, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1995 -->The Text of the New Testament, Kurt Aland, Barbara Aland, Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 1995
Over 1/3 of the verses in the New testament alone have variations.
Also, you do know that many of our ancient classic books that have been found have never had an original found with them either yet college professors consider them completely historically accurate. In fact, the Bible has the MOST manuscripts that have been found backing it up. More then anything from Homer for example.
Oh you are in my wheelhouse now. Do you fundies actually believe this stuff or are you just comfortable spouting lies and untruths. You see I have evidence you do not.
Comparing the Iliad with the bible is disingenuous at best. The New Testament is a compilation, Iliad a single book by a single author. Also, the vast majority of manuscripts christians claim are just fragments. On comparing extant copies of individual books to the Iliad compares quite favorably. Book of Revelation 287, Iliad 650, Book of Acts has 573. Only the Gospels all combined show a significantly higher #.
Lets compare it to the Quran. The library of Astan-i Quds-i Razavi in Mashhad, Iran alone houses 11,000 manuscripts of the Quran. So using your argument the Quran must be more special than the Bible.
Source for this is The Rejection of Pascal's Wager, Paul Tobin, Authors OnLine, Limited, 2009 --> The Rejection of Pascal's Wager, Paul Tobin, Authors OnLine, Limited, 2009
Oh by the way. I don't know any college professors that teach that Homer is history, please point out who teaches this.
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Theodoric
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Message 79 of 127 (549243)
03-05-2010 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Flyer75
03-02-2010 9:28 AM


Bump
Flyer75,
Any chance of a response to my points in MSG 61. You have responded to other posts since then. I was hoping you might be able to back your assertions with some semblance of evidence.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 122 of 127 (550564)
03-16-2010 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by Peg
03-16-2010 3:37 AM


In other words
It is all subjective and up to everyone's personal interpretations, biases and preconceived ideas.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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