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Message 5 of 128 (549882)
03-11-2010 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by IchiBan
03-11-2010 3:21 AM


Based upon the reply's I have received over on the free for all forum topic "Why I am creationist", I think this website should be re-badged to something that more aptly reflects what it is.
How about "Evolution v. Sore Losers"?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 42 of 128 (549973)
03-11-2010 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Pauline
03-11-2010 7:13 PM


Re: Oh, And By The Way
To me this is inspiring. While I acknowledge that God is the author of the universe, I endeavor to discover how He managed to do it and the intricacies therein.
Heh. Too bad biological science doesn't want to make friends with its maker.
But there are plenty of biologists like Francis Collins and Ken Miller and Simon Conway Morris who are willing to explain that biology and God are the best of pals. They have no problems reconciling biology and God, but what they can't reconcile is biology and creationist loonies, who, despite their pretensions, are not God.
By definition, God transcends science, observation, and empiricism. He's like the wind which you cannot see but you "know" its there because of its effects.
The wind does not transcend science, observation, and empiricism. This is why I don't just "know" it's there in scare quotes, I really do know that it's there.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 43 of 128 (549974)
03-11-2010 7:25 PM
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03-11-2010 7:19 PM


Re: My Rating! Violated!
Great. One more "scientific, empirical" evidence for evolution in action.
Why don't you go publish a paper on "How creationist bullies prove evolution through their appalling behavior"? Hey, it kills time...
You need to replace the batteries in your humor detector.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 45 of 128 (549977)
03-11-2010 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Pauline
03-11-2010 7:26 PM


Re: My Rating! Violated!
Well, have you seen the wind, then?
No, but I've seen its effects. You know, things blowing about.
I think that would strike only retards as humorous.
Perhaps you don't find it funny. But it was fatuous to reply to it as though it was intended seriously.

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Message 83 of 128 (550123)
03-12-2010 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Pauline
03-12-2010 5:34 PM


Uhuh. Is education inversely proportional to open-mindedness?
No. This is why educated people are more likely to look at your beliefs and laugh and laugh and laugh. Because they are not closed-minded religious zealots who have to bow down and worship your opinions. Instead, they have open minds, and they can look at every idea on its merits, and so they laugh and laugh and laugh at your pathetic futile nonsense.
There is no debate.
What’s the point in comparing apples to oranges?
There is no common criterion on which to base arguments in the Creation-Evolution debate. One view thinks in terms of the supernatural and the other, the natural.
Well put. But the reason that there is a debate is that the creationists want to pretend that their views are scientific. If they just came out with it and said: "I don't believe in evolution because, although all the facts prove me wrong, my imaginary friend told me not to", then those of us who live in the real world would have nothing left to do but feel sorry for them. But it's not like that, is it? Instead they talk retarded gibberish about science and then pat themselves on the back and tell everyone how their imaginary friend is right and how the stupid nonsense that their imaginary friend believes in should be taught in science class.
Good grief. Who said that scientific theories need incorporate supernatural elements? Our beloved Darwin had serious questions about theism and God which significantly fueled the development of his theory. Remember the intellectually fulfilled atheist idea? Truth is that no scientific theory denigrates humans to such a pitiful state as evolution does. Evolution is a blight on ethics. If it wants to be called scientific, let it behave like it. Suffice yourself with microevolution. When you talk about stuff like Darwinian evolution being responsible for morality and emotions, that’s when we all realize that this so-called theory is more of a belief system. That’s ethics. Even though it does not tell us how to act or behavethat it makes abstract things seem material and material only (without evidence that too) shows its insanity.
This would be a case in point. You are discussing the fantasy world in your head. And you are doing so in all seriousness.
Now, sure, if it makes you happy to believe that crap, then go ahead and believe it. Evidently it makes you feel better, and no-one will get hurt if you indulge yourself in this way. It's like masturbation in that respect. But you want to get up on your little soapbox in public and preach this crap. And at that point I think you've gone too far.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 87 of 128 (550165)
03-13-2010 8:17 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Pauline
03-12-2010 8:16 PM


I, myself, would like to learn from and contribute to this forum. People like yourself do their part in making it a congenial place to debate. I'm not going to debate the Creation vs. Evolution topic, though.
Yeah, you're pretty much screwed there, aren't you?
By saying God transcends logic, I'm effectively saying we've got to view God as master of our minds rather than master Him with our minds.
In short, you just have to learn to live with the fact that your religion makes no sense. Only actually you don't. You could believe something, that does make sense.
Vishnu never made the claims Jesus did. Neither did any other god.
True. Every other god said that he was a god --- Jesus is the one person to be worshiped as a god by his followers without having claimed divinity.
What's that about?
The Bible's uniqueness both in content and structure speaks for itself to the ready reader.
Yeah. It says: "Here's a collection of fiction and poetry which is so grossly inconsistent with itself that it was definitely not written by the same author, and so grossly inconsistent with reality that you'd have to be nuts to believe it."
Quite irrelevant, actually. I asked them why they wouldn't believe in a designer by giving them a very specific example of the human body. Many admitted that it baffled them, initially.
No they didn't. Here's the thread. Would you please try to make your statements more congruent with reality? Thanks.
Faith is the evidence of things unseen.
Er ... no it isn't.
That's basically where you're going wrong. You think it is, but it's not. The mere fact that you believe an absurdity is not a reason to believe that absurdity.
Here's faith.
It's evidence that people can be idiots, but that's hardly a "thing unseen".
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Dr Adequate
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Message 88 of 128 (550167)
03-13-2010 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by Percy
03-13-2010 7:52 AM


That's just Dr Adequate being Dr Adequate.
Or "right" as we call it for short.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 90 of 128 (550172)
03-13-2010 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Buzsaw
03-13-2010 8:42 AM


Re: Jesus's Divinity
Hi Doc. Why did he accept worship from different ones? Doesn't son of God qualify for divinity?
I'm not following you ... it isn't recorded in the Gospels that Jesus' followers gave him divine honors. Certainly they thought he was a great guy, but none of them worshiped him in the strict sense of the word.
And yet today his followers tell me that that's what I must do to be saved. According to them, it's essential to my spiritual well-being to worship Jesus as God ... and yet he never mentioned this crucial fact, nor did the apostles so worship him.
What's up with that?
I ought to add this to slevesque's apologetics thread, it's a good question.

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