More recent example of how ALL communist manifestations in history resemble more like theocracies than anything else.
I wouldn't call the North Korean government(Juche socialist) communist in any way. It does resemble a theocracy, what with Kim Il-sung being declared Eternal President when he died, but it clearly is a facist movement.
If there was any hint of communism in the USSR it was in the very early days.
The same happened in Cuba. In it's very early days, the revolution may have resemble a commuinst movement. But as anyone who has studied cuban history knows, Castro did not want communism as the form of government for Cuba (according to those close to him).
quote: [Machado] was finally toppled in the 1933 by US influence, Sumner Welles, Cuban War of Independence veterans, Army officers and civic leaders in a general strike.
When this happened, students(which Castro lead) and labor activist formed a revolution that lead to the eventual uprising of Castro. This is partly the reason Castro wanted nothing to do with the US, because he faulted them for not only getting involved in Cuban politics, but for aiding in the over throw of Machado.
Machado's vision, like that of Castro's, was:
quote:to make Cuba the "Switzerland of the Americas"
This is why everyone loved Castro in the early days. It was due to necessity that Castro joined the "self-proclaimed" communist party of Russia.
Curretly, Castro serves as First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba. A name that stuck, even though Cuba is far from being a communist state.
I won't further elaborate, nor provide references, for if I do then Straggler will only accuse me of namedropping.
Why do you care what Straggler will do? There are others reading these threads and frankly, some of us also find your position quite vague sometimes. If you don't elaborate or provide references you've done nothing.
I participate at evcforum because I enjoy thoughtful discussions where the parties to the discussion can learn from one another.
But this is a debate forum. People are here to debate the issues not discuss them aimlessly. There is a purpose here is there not?
After several failed attempts, I have to conclude that such thoughtful discussion is impossible between me and Straggler.
From what I've read exchanged between you two, it seems like he is trying to debate your position while you're not trying to make a point nor defend a point. He's aggressive while you're trying to be philosophical. He's not trying to have a thoughtful discussion, he's trying to prove you wrong.
I think you've misread his initial intent. Straggler seeks to destroy. lol