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bluegenes
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Message 26 of 71 (551299)
03-22-2010 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Den
03-22-2010 9:09 AM


Who's really giving to whom?
Den writes:
I wish the other satire I wrote wasnt locked, because I was wondering what would happen if all the churches closed overnight and the world became universally Atheist/evolution believers, obviously this would destroy the churches ability to do their immense scope of charitable work?
You might get a clue to this if you research and examine the varying levels of religious belief in different countries around the world. The least religious ones, you'll discover, are net givers of international aid, and the very religious ones tend to be net receivers. In other words, the more secular section of the world seems to be subsidising high religiosity in what used to be called the "third world."
There's a tendency amongst religious people to believe that whatever religion they believe in would benefit the world if belief in it was universal, but there's certainly evidence against this.
Do you really think that a country like Sweden would benefit from returning to the high levels of supernaturalism that you can see in Bangladesh, the Philippines, or Nigeria?
As for the soup kitchens, examine what the Swedes do in socio-economic policy and how effective it is, and there's your clue. Perhaps the soup kitchens are there to patch up the inadequacies of the economic policies that conservative Christians seem to be so keen on.

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bluegenes
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Message 50 of 71 (551392)
03-22-2010 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Rahvin
03-22-2010 2:32 PM


Re: Why are any of you feeding the troll?
Rahvin writes:
He's not looking for discussion. He's just looking for attention. He wants to get a rise out of us. Stop letting him succeed.
Don't feed the trolls.
If, like me, you think that religion does more harm than good in the world, there's every reason to encourage people who choose to discredit it in public on the internet. In your religious days, wouldn't the enormous numbers of nutty and/or ignorant internet defenders of Faith have contributed to your doubts?
Feed away, and let religion shoot itself in the foot, I say.

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bluegenes
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Message 55 of 71 (551442)
03-22-2010 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by hooah212002
03-22-2010 4:23 PM


Re: Why are any of you feeding the troll?
hooah212002 writes:
However, is it not a common occurrence that no matter what is said to them, no matter what logic, they will still feel as though they have won the "debate"? They will always run back to their peers (or any other like minded group) and turn it into "see, see, I did good. I showed them atheists". And they will all agree.
Of course. I'm well aware of that. But I'm also aware that there are many intelligent young people who've been brought up with a religion which they've been taught is truth, and who will sooner or later question that truth. People like the author of this O.P. inadvertently stimulate that questioning.
Also, they give me the opportunity to point out that the countries with the highest levels of non-theism are relatively well functioning societies (Sweden, France, Japan etc.) and are net contributors to world aid, which is invariably received by highly religious societies.
I like pointing things like that out.

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