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petrophysics1
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Message 139 of 218 (551652)
03-23-2010 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by ICANT
03-22-2010 9:16 PM


Re: Guns
Hi ICANT,
The week before, last Thursday HB0095 was passed into law in Wyoming.
I don't much give a crap what the legal opinions of the lib loons on this board are as I live under the laws of the state of Wyoming.
What does HB0095 say?
A BILL
for
AN ACT relating to the Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act; 1
establishing a Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act; providing that 2
specified firearms that are manufactured, sold, purchased, 3
possessed and used exclusively within Wyoming shall be 4
exempt from federal regulation, including registration 5
requirements; providing exceptions; creating offenses; 6
providing penalties; authorizing the attorney general to 7
defend specified actions; providing legislative findings 8
and declarations of authority; and providing for an 9
effective date.
Lets look at this:
(a) A personal firearm, a firearm accessory or 2
ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately 3
in Wyoming and that remains exclusively within the borders 4
of Wyoming is not subject to federal law, federal taxation 5
or federal regulation, including registration, under the 6
authority of the United States congress to regulate 7
interstate commerce. It is declared by the Wyoming 8
legislature that those items have not traveled in 9
interstate commerce. This section applies to a firearm, a 10
firearm accessory or ammunition that is manufactured in 11
Wyoming from basic materials
I'm sure the BATF, the FBI and Federal Marshalls will like this part:
(b) Any official, agent or employee of the United
States government who enforces or attempts to enforce any
act, order, law, statute, rule or regulation of the United
States government upon a personal firearm, a firearm
accessory or ammunition that is manufactured commercially
or privately in Wyoming and that remains exclusively within
the borders of Wyoming shall be guilty of a felony and,
upon conviction, shall be subject to imprisonment for not
more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than ten
thousand dollars ($10,000.00), or both.
You know if those BATF, FBI guys screw wih me they will be spending 2 years in the Wyoming State Prison in Rawlins.
Now I may have to pay for this myself, no problem for me, but the state might actually front the bill.
(c) The attorney general may defend a citizen of 1
Wyoming who is prosecuted by the United States government 2
for violation of a federal law relating to the manufacture, 3
sale, transfer or possession of a firearm, a firearm 4
accessory or ammunition manufactured and retained 5
exclusively within the borders of Wyoming.
6-8-406. Legislative findings and declaration of 8
authority.
Let's take a quick look at why Wyoming has the RIGHT to do this:
(i) The tenth amendment to the United States 14
constitution guarantees to the states and their people all 15
powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in 16
the constitution and reserves to the state and the people 17
of Wyoming certain powers as they were understood at the 18
time that Wyoming was admitted to statehood in 1890. The 19
guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between 20
the state and people of Wyoming and the several states 21
comprising the United States as of the time the Act of 22
Admission was agreed upon and adopted by Wyoming and the 23
several states comprising the United States in 1889; 24
2010 STATE OF WYOMING 10LSO-0274
8 HB0095
1
(ii) The ninth amendment to the United States 2
constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in 3
the constitution and reserves to the people of Wyoming 4
certain rights, as they were understood at the time Wyoming 5
was admitted to statehood in 1890. The guaranty of those 6
rights is a matter of contract between the state and people 7
of Wyoming and the several states comprising the United 8
States as of the time the Act of Admission was agreed upon 9
and adopted by Wyoming and the United States in 1889; 10
11
(iii) The regulation of intrastate commerce is 12
vested in the states under the ninth and tenth amendments 13
to the United States constitution, particularly if not 14
expressly preempted by federal law pursuant to article 1, 15
section 8 of the United States constitution.
Further the law states:
(i) The tenth amendment to the United States 14
constitution guarantees to the states and their people all 15
powers not granted to the federal government elsewhere in 16
the constitution and reserves to the state and the people 17
of Wyoming certain powers as they were understood at the 18
time that Wyoming was admitted to statehood in 1890. The 19
guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between 20
the state and people of Wyoming and the several states 21
comprising the United States as of the time the Act of 22
Admission was agreed upon and adopted by Wyoming and the 23
several states comprising the United States in 1889; 24
2010 STATE OF WYOMING 10LSO-0274
8 HB0095
1
(ii) The ninth amendment to the United States 2
constitution guarantees to the people rights not granted in 3
the constitution and reserves to the people of Wyoming 4
certain rights, as they were understood at the time Wyoming 5
was admitted to statehood in 1890. The guaranty of those 6
rights is a matter of contract between the state and people 7
of Wyoming and the several states comprising the United 8
States as of the time the Act of Admission was agreed upon 9
and adopted by Wyoming and the United States in 1889; 10
11
(iii) The regulation of intrastate commerce is 12
vested in the states under the ninth and tenth amendments 13
to the United States constitution, particularly if not 14
expressly preempted by federal law pursuant to article 1, 15
section 8 of the United States constitution.
I know that was a lot to read, but to me as a legal resident and citizen of Wyoming it states my rights, and tells the Feds to Fuck off./qs
The entire law can be found here:
http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2010/Introduced/HB0095.pdf
What the liberal loons on this board think has NO EFFECT ON THE LAWS IN THE STATE OF WYOMING.
I'll fight for that, no problem.
Edited by petrophysics1, : No reason given.

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petrophysics1
Inactive Member


Message 155 of 218 (551737)
03-24-2010 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by New Cat's Eye
03-23-2010 2:37 PM


Re: Guns
Hi CS
Glad you liked that. Just thought I would post that law.
I could comment on some of the other things you mentioned, but understand I am pretty sure that it is against the law here in Wyoming ( and all other states)to give a legal opinion unless you are a member of the BAR.
I understand that giving legal opinions without being an attorney is something that doesn't bother someone like Rahvin, but for me it's something that maybe illegal and I don't want to do it.
I posted the law, and you can read it for yourself.
You don't need some liberal moron to explain it to you.
Just a word, I really wouldn't want to show up in court someday telling a judge I did/or did not do something I thought was OK because some fool like Rahvin on the internet gave me legal advice. In court you would probably look like an idiot.
So concerning Wyoming law and it's relation to Federal law, contact an attorney who practices law here.

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petrophysics1
Inactive Member


Message 156 of 218 (551738)
03-24-2010 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Rahvin
03-23-2010 3:17 PM


Re: Guns
Rahvin,
Send me a copy of your BAR card, and let us all know when you you were allowed to practice law in Wyoming.

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