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Topic: Straightforward, hard-to-answer-questions about the Bible/Christianity
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 112 of 477 (548633)
02-28-2010 7:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by Pauline
02-28-2010 7:12 PM
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Re: Metaphors in Genesis
What evidence do you present to argue that Adam was innocent/naive/tricked/deceived/helpless when he was given so clear a warning? Let's start with this thought: how would A and E possibly have any conception of what "die," or even "SURELY DIE!!!!" might mean, when, according to the story, death didn't yet exist? If I told you, Dr. Sing, to not type the word "weasel," or you would surely gomphrammitz, would you be impressed? Would it be a "clear warning?" Oh, and the story has a snake tempting Eve and Eve tempting Adam. No Satan in there at all.....
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 114 of 477 (548638)
02-28-2010 8:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 113 by Pauline
02-28-2010 7:53 PM
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Re: Metaphors in Genesis
Animals as we know them today don't go around chatting with humans..... And they never did, in much the same way gods, demons, and boogiemen never did.
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 117 of 477 (548650)
02-28-2010 9:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 115 by Pauline
02-28-2010 8:32 PM
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Re: Metaphors in Genesis
Satan is a clever dude, don't you think? Not as clever as Sauron.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 143 of 477 (549072)
03-03-2010 8:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 136 by Pauline
03-02-2010 9:13 PM
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John Calvin. ...No, jk... he's an amazing man. Particularly if you are fond of scheming, murderous assholes.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 161 of 477 (549570)
03-08-2010 8:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 160 by Pauline
03-08-2010 7:56 PM
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And how God, Himself works with a man to being about good. That's what counts as "good" in Calvinland? Hmm. Someday, on another thread, Doc, explain to me why Joshua needed ths sun over Gibeon, and the moon at Aijalon, when they're ten miles apart.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 165 of 477 (549594)
03-08-2010 11:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 162 by Pauline
03-08-2010 9:29 PM
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Ah. And where do you get this number from? I estimated it from Atlas of the Bible, by L. H. Grollenberg, Nelson (1956). I could easily be off by a mile or two. What phase was the moon that day? Big enough to be visible in daylight?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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God did not kill babies in the old testament.... Really? No babies were around at the Flood, and none lived in Sodom or Gemorrah, and the first-born of the Egyptians were all grown? It's your book, Sparcz! Read it!
"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 235 of 477 (558896)
05-05-2010 12:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 229 by Pauline
05-05-2010 10:39 AM
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Re: A farce by any other name ...
Absolute moral code. For both theists and "atheists" alike. GOOD! So we atheists can own slaves, too, and be MORAL about it! Hooray! Where are some for sale?
Ob the other side, what does being Christian mean? It means you are ahead in the morality game than your atheist counterparts. Tell Ratzinger all about it......
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