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sac51495
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Message 61 of 577 (553423)
04-03-2010 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2010 2:44 AM


Then why the heck should anyone care what you have to say?
That, Dr. Adequate, is for you to decide. You can decide what you think is important, and what is not, but I will go on speaking what I believe to be the truth, and whether or not you respond to it is not left up to me, but to God.

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Message 62 of 577 (553424)
04-03-2010 2:54 AM
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04-03-2010 1:09 AM


Re: It reverts back to the evidence
You say there is evidence for natural law...and from where (once again) is this evidence derived?
Once again, from observation.

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sac51495
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Message 63 of 577 (553425)
04-03-2010 2:55 AM
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04-03-2010 2:40 AM


There's this thing called "democracy", you might have heard of it.
Indeed I have Dr. Adequate, but since when did the U.K. establish democracy as the correct way of doing things?

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sac51495
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Message 64 of 577 (553426)
04-03-2010 2:58 AM
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04-03-2010 2:54 AM


Re: It reverts back to the evidence
Once again, from observation.
And during this observation, do you invoke the use of the laws of logic to decide just what you are looking at, or do you mindlessly stare at it, with no thoughts or assumptions?
Edited by sac51495, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 65 of 577 (553427)
04-03-2010 3:01 AM
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04-03-2010 2:53 AM


That, Dr. Adequate, is for you to decide. You can decide what you think is important, and what is not, but I will go on speaking what I believe to be the truth, and whether or not you respond to it is not left up to me, but to God.
You intrigue me. You say that it is up to God whether I respond. Is it also up to God how I respond?

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Message 66 of 577 (553428)
04-03-2010 3:05 AM
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04-03-2010 2:55 AM


Indeed I have Dr. Adequate, but since when did the U.K. establish democracy as the correct way of doing things?
If you were genuinely interested in British history, which you are not, then there are in fact books on the history of Britain which you could read if you really wanted to know the answer to this question, which you don't.

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Message 67 of 577 (553429)
04-03-2010 3:06 AM
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04-03-2010 2:58 AM


Re: It reverts back to the evidence
And during this observation, do you invoke the use of the laws of logic to decide just what you are looking at, or do you mindlessly stare at it, with no thoughts or assumptions?
Obviously I thought about the evidence.
I recommend the same practice to your good self.

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sac51495
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Message 68 of 577 (553430)
04-03-2010 3:09 AM
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04-03-2010 3:01 AM


You intrigue me. You say that it is up to God whether I respond. Is it also up to God how I respond?
"Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin." (Romans 6:6)
If, according to this passage, you are a slave to sin, then sin affects all the choices you make, and thus, you will choose, every time, the sinful choice...that is to choose against God. However, if God works a change in you, then you are no longer a slave to sin.
Edited by sac51495, : No reason given.

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sac51495
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Message 69 of 577 (553431)
04-03-2010 3:10 AM
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04-03-2010 3:05 AM


Dr. Adequate, I merely was trying to make the point that under your worldview, the U.K. has no pretence for setting up democracy as the correct way of doing things.

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sac51495
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Message 70 of 577 (553432)
04-03-2010 3:12 AM
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04-03-2010 3:06 AM


Re: It reverts back to the evidence
Obviously I thought about the evidence.
Does the word "thought" indicate that you used the laws of logic?
To the second remark, I will maintain my composure, and will not stoop to resorting to snide remarks to win arguments.
Edited by sac51495, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 71 of 577 (553433)
04-03-2010 3:30 AM
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04-03-2010 3:12 AM


Re: It reverts back to the evidence
Does the word "thought" indicate that you used the laws of logic?
Of course. How else would one think --- you tell me?
To the second remark, I will maintain my composure, and will not stoop to resorting to snide remarks to win arguments.
You're a saint.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 72 of 577 (553434)
04-03-2010 3:31 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by sac51495
04-03-2010 3:10 AM


Dr. Adequate, I merely was trying to make the point that under your worldview, the U.K. has no pretence for setting up democracy as the correct way of doing things.
And you are, of course, wrong.

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Message 73 of 577 (553435)
04-03-2010 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by sac51495
04-03-2010 3:09 AM


"Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin." (Romans 6:6)
If, according to this passage, you are a slave to sin, then sin affects all the choices you make, and thus, you will choose, every time, the sinful choice...that is to choose against God. However, if God works a change in you, then you are no longer a slave to sin.
Was that a yes or a no?
It's a yes or no question. You say that God decides whether I respond to you. Does God also decide how I respond to you?
Yes or no?

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sac51495
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Message 74 of 577 (553436)
04-03-2010 3:34 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Dr Adequate
04-03-2010 3:33 AM


Sin directs your decision, as spoken of in the verse.

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sac51495
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Message 75 of 577 (553438)
04-03-2010 3:38 AM


"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:28-29)
And what is this promise that is spoken of?
"From this man’s seed, according to the promise, God raised up for Israel a SaviorJesus" (Acts 13:23)
And what does that Savior do for us?
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
This promise is not the promise of some special, fuzzy feeling but a promise to eternal lifethink of that, and try to grasp the concept of living forever, and try to grasp the concept of God, because then you can truly understand ALL things, because in Him do all things consist. I see that the people on this forum seem to be trying to understand the things around them better, and have thus formulated arguments in support of their opinions. To understand all things, however, you must attempt to grasp the concept of all things consisting in God. We cannot truly grasp this, but we can certainly try to grasp it.

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