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Faith 
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Message 31 of 165 (553868)
04-05-2010 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 10:57 AM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
I certainly believe it's definitive of the supposed "spitting" accusation against a man who was just yelling "kill the bill" and the assemblyman just walked too close to him.

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Faith 
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Message 32 of 165 (553869)
04-05-2010 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Rahvin
04-05-2010 11:33 AM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
And that doesn't even cover the video I saw last week of teabaggers hurling racial epithets like the n-bomb at black Democrats.
Would really like to see that video. Link?

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Message 33 of 165 (553877)
04-05-2010 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
04-05-2010 12:51 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
I saw it last week, so it may be a bit before I can find the video again. But here's a link to an article on the incident:
Linky
quote:
CBC member: Health bill protesters called lawmakers the N-word
By Roxana Tiron and Lauren Victoria Burke - 03/20/10 03:27 PM ET
Rep. Andre Carson (D-Ind.) claimed Saturday that healthcare protesters at the Capitol directed racial epithets at him Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) as they walked outside.
Carson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus along with Lewis, told The Hill that protesters called the lawmakers the N-word.
Tea Party protesters held a rally outside the Capitol on Saturday, which included speeches by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and actor Jon Voight, and then proceeded into the halls to lobby members at the 11th hour.
Lewis was one of the leaders of the civil rights movement alongside Martin Luther King. Jr.
Asked if racial epithets were yelled at him, Lewis responded, "Yes, but it's OK. I've heard this before in the '60s. A lot of this is just downright hate."

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Message 34 of 165 (553891)
04-05-2010 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by onifre
04-02-2010 6:35 PM


I had an opportunity to meet Tucker Carlson on a radio show (long story on how we both ended up in the studio at the same time) and I got to listen to him talk and hang out casually. I had, at that time, only known him because of the John Stewart ass reaming he took. And I noticed, he really was sincere about his point of view. Him and the DJ were/are good friends and when they would go to commercial they would keep talking about the topic.
I actually like Tucker, even if I disagree with his political views. You can tell that he has thought things through.
I wouldn't say Beck believes what comes out of his mouth, but I do believe Hannity, Limbaugh and O' Reilly believe every word. They just happen to be reallllly good at pushing the right buttons and saying it in a way that adds the shock value. I will say this, they are very, very good at what they do.
I am not sure what to think of O'Reilly, but Hannity and Rush I have a hard time believing. I just can't picture a sane person saying the things that they say other than attempt to increase ratings. Hannity's obsession with "Obama is the "Messiah"" thing just baffled me.

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Theodoric
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Message 35 of 165 (553893)
04-05-2010 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
04-05-2010 12:51 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
Would really like to see that video. Link?
Why? You will just deny reality or make some sort of excuse.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 36 of 165 (553898)
04-05-2010 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
04-05-2010 12:51 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
Here is one I found in 2 mins of searching. At 1:36 of the video on this page the tern "nigger" can clearly be heard.
Link
Also, it looks like the GOP and Teabagger leaders are throwing the racists under the bus. Faith does it make any difference to you if the leaders of th GOP and the Teapartiers admit racist and homophobic slurs were used? Or will you continue to deny reality?
quote:
UPDATE#1: Republican Party leaders and Tea Party protest organizers have finally come out and condemned the racial and homophobic slurs hurled at black and a gay lawmaker by some of the health care demonstrators Saturday at the Capitol. House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, during an appearance Sunday morning on NBC, called the actions by some protesters "reprehensible" and said that they were isolated incidents that shouldn't reflect on Tea Party participants as a whole. Amy Kremer, coordinator of the Tea Party Express, said, "I absolutely think it's isolated," Kremer told Fox News on Sunday. "It's disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because that's not what we're about."
Source

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 37 of 165 (553903)
04-05-2010 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 4:01 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
Here is one I found in 2 mins of searching. At 1:36 of the video on this page the tern "nigger" can clearly be heard.
Link
I didn't hear it. I think I heard "traitor... go home". It certainly wasn't clear.
Try again?

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Theodoric
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Message 38 of 165 (553905)
04-05-2010 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by New Cat's Eye
04-05-2010 4:30 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
Thats right because since their signs were so racist they certainly wouldn't say anything that was racist.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 39 of 165 (553906)
04-05-2010 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 4:01 PM


Re: some pics the media didn't show you
the tern "nigger" can clearly be heard.
Sorry, Theo, I hear "traitor" on both the time you cited and the intro at about 2 seconds in.
I replayed them about a dozen times with my speakers screaming loud, but no "nigger."
And thank you for the other clip. Some of those signs were quite pointed. I don't know why I'm surprised the specter of the klan is still with us. I always hope we've turn a corner. Pipe dream I guess.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 40 of 165 (553910)
04-05-2010 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 4:40 PM


Thats right because since their signs were so racist they certainly wouldn't say anything that was racist.
Logic please....
Me telling you that you're your wrong and they didn't say nigger isn't me saying they cannot be racist
You're just seeing what you want to see.

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Theodoric
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Message 41 of 165 (553913)
04-05-2010 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by New Cat's Eye
04-05-2010 4:50 PM


Doesnt sound like traitor to me. Listened to it 5 times.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 42 of 165 (553917)
04-05-2010 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 5:00 PM


Doesnt sound like traitor to me. Listened to it 5 times.
Yeah, its sounds like nigger to you because you're hearing what you want to hear.
Well I listened to it 10 times, and I never heard the word nigger.
You're acting like its common knowledge that the teabaggers said nigger.
The only thing I can find is The "Liberal" Media saying that some guy said some teabagger said nigger.
It looks to me like Faith has provided an example of the supposed leftist bias.
Its interesting to me that you're so strongly believing it that its effecting your hearing. Can you really clearly hear them say nigger?
And the hypocrisy of telling her that she's detached from reality This should answer some of your questions here: Message 299

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Message 43 of 165 (553933)
04-05-2010 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by New Cat's Eye
04-05-2010 6:26 PM


I am willing to admit that it might not be nigger. It may be another word. There have been many people that have stated they heard nigger. Are you saying they are liars.? Are you saying John Lewis is a liar? Do you claim all the media is lying? Even after John Boehner and leaders of the tea party movement are admitting that racial and homophobic slurs were yelled? Where is the bias? The media reported what they heard and what members of congress stated they heard.
You're acting like its common knowledge that the teabaggers said nigger.
Well since they had racist slogans on signs, is it such a stretch? Go on defend there signs. Tell me how it is so ridiculous to entertain the thought that a person with a racist sign would yell something racist.
Instead of actually saying it, you slyly imply you think I am an asshole, because I do not agree with you. Why don't you grow a pair and just call me an asshole in thread again. Instead you point to a post on another thread. Again I disagree with you so I am an asshole? If you don't like what I say or how I say it, just ignore me or shut up. If you can't add to the discourse then keep your lame personal attacks to yourself.
And the hypocrisy of telling her that she's detached from reality This should answer some of your questions here: Message 299
Do you truly believe there is a liberal media conspiracy? Please, please show me how the media is some sort of liberal bastion. Give me some evidence for this conspiracy. If you believe in a liberal media conspiracy you too are detached from reality.
What lameass thing are you going to jump all over me for next? I can always be sure if I say something you are going to be right there trying to stir shit up.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 44 of 165 (553939)
04-05-2010 8:23 PM
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04-05-2010 7:58 PM


Theodoric writes:
I am willing to admit that it might not be nigger. It may be another word. There have been many people that have stated they heard nigger.
When I listened the first time, I heard "nigger".
When I listened the second time, I thought I heard "nigger" but I was not quite as sure as on the first listening.
Then, after listening several more times, it became clearer that it was really "traitor".
Theodoric writes:
Are you saying they are liars.? Are you saying John Lewis is a liar?
I cannot speak for New Cat's Eye. For myself, no, I am not calling anybody a liar. For this particular incident, they could have misheard just as I did at first. And I do think there is an undercurrent of racism that motivates some of the critics of Obama.
As for the question of media bias, I think I have commented on that in Message 2.

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Message 45 of 165 (553944)
04-05-2010 8:35 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by New Cat's Eye
04-05-2010 4:30 PM


Re: some pics
Here is one I found in 2 mins of searching. At 1:36 of the video on this page the tern "nigger" can clearly be heard.
I didn't hear it. I think I heard "traitor... go home". It certainly wasn't clear.
Try again?
I hear the guy closer to the mike at 1:36 say "Traitor...go home", but at 1:33 I hear someone further away use the n-word.

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