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nwr
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Message 2 of 165 (553146)
04-01-2010 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DC85
04-01-2010 4:13 PM


What I mostly see is a pro-entertainment bias in the media. That is, there is a tendency to emphasize events that are controversial and will thereby attract an audience for their advertisers.
I also tend to see a bias toward the corporate establishment. This is perhaps not surprising, since the mainstream media are part of that corporate establishment.
I do not see the "anti-rightist" bias that Faith complains about.
For as long as I have been paying attentention, the political right have been complaining about a left wing bias in the press and a left wing bias in the universities. In my experience, neither of these has ever been true.
There is a bias in the universities. It is a bias toward knowledge and away from ignorance. And that is hardly surprising, given their mission. I have not seen any evidence of a political bias, nor any evidence that political leanings are even considered in the hiring practices.

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Message 5 of 165 (553205)
04-01-2010 9:48 PM
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04-01-2010 9:32 PM


Coyote writes:
One method of checking for potential bias is a simple poll to find out how many university professors are Republicans and how many are Democrats.
That would show trends, but would not give evidence of whether there is a hiring bias involved.
In any case, my guess would be that many professors would say that they are independents.
The proportion of Republicans would be higher in the business school faculty than in the liberal arts and sciences faculty. The economic departments would probably have more libertarians than other departments. The sociology department might have more socialists than other departments.
If you were to poll the farmers, you would probably find far more Republicans than Democrats. But nobody is accusing the corn fields of being biased in how they select who is to farm them.
If there are less conservatives on the university faculty, then part of the reason is that most conservatives are not choosing that kind of occupation.

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nwr
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Message 44 of 165 (553939)
04-05-2010 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Theodoric
04-05-2010 7:58 PM


Theodoric writes:
I am willing to admit that it might not be nigger. It may be another word. There have been many people that have stated they heard nigger.
When I listened the first time, I heard "nigger".
When I listened the second time, I thought I heard "nigger" but I was not quite as sure as on the first listening.
Then, after listening several more times, it became clearer that it was really "traitor".
Theodoric writes:
Are you saying they are liars.? Are you saying John Lewis is a liar?
I cannot speak for New Cat's Eye. For myself, no, I am not calling anybody a liar. For this particular incident, they could have misheard just as I did at first. And I do think there is an undercurrent of racism that motivates some of the critics of Obama.
As for the question of media bias, I think I have commented on that in Message 2.

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nwr
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Message 81 of 165 (554183)
04-06-2010 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Faith
04-06-2010 7:22 PM


Re: WOW!!!
Faith writes:
Obama isn't a practicing Muslim but he did grow up with a lot of Muslim influence in his family and he did go to a Muslim school for a while as a child.
That's public knowledge. As far as I know, he has never denied that.
Faith writes:
That's no problem in itself except that he has seemed to want to deny ANY such Muslim background at all in some contexts.
Do you have any links to this supposed denial?

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Message 101 of 165 (554403)
04-08-2010 1:32 AM
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04-08-2010 1:26 AM


Re: How about getting back in touch with the topic theme?
I am seeing your post. And, before that, I saw Coyote's.

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nwr
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Message 103 of 165 (554417)
04-08-2010 7:24 AM
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04-08-2010 2:36 AM


Re: How about getting back in touch with the topic theme?
That gave an additional hint.
There is something strange about Message 98. The "Profile", "Reply" and "Peek" buttons are missing. There's probably some bad html there.
That post has a couple of youtube videos. The one following is by Coyote and isn't anything you would find controversial (I think).
(abe) You might be able to see the missing post by clicking on "Coyote posts only" near the top of the page. Or try "DC85 posts only" to see if that helps looking at the bad one.
Edited by nwr, : add comment on possible work around.

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