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PaulK
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Message 31 of 34 (554274)
04-07-2010 3:19 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
04-06-2010 8:32 PM


Re: Disallowed Evidence
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Whatever significant evidence any has should be allowed for consideration. It's not. If this were true, you can be assured Ballard et al would be at Nuweiba to either confirm or refute the evidence claimed along with the corroborating ducks lined up lending support.
Maybe discrediting the Bible further isn't high on Ballard's list of priorities. Besides Christians will just point out that Ron Wyatt was a loony and claim that his shortcomings shouldn't reflect badly on their faith at all. So even though there is significant evidence of incompetence and fraud this wouldn't be very promising even if Ballard shared your anti-Christian agenda.

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Huntard
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Message 32 of 34 (554288)
04-07-2010 5:41 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by Buzsaw
04-06-2010 8:32 PM


Re: Disallowed Evidence
Buzsaw writes:
Whatever significant evidence any has should be allowed for consideration. It's not.
That's cause there isn't any.
If this were true, you can be assured Ballard et al would be at Nuweiba to either confirm or refute the evidence claimed along with the corroborating ducks lined up lending support.
It's not their job to substantiate claims made by others. Go on, fish up a wheel. Prove it's a chariot wheel from the correct time and (this is the important bit) prove it could only have gotten there because of the exodus, and not by, say, falling of a trade ship.
Some of the ID opponents would have opportunity to aire their reasons for opposing etc.
Their reasons for opposing is they don't like evolution because it contradicts their interpretation of the bible.
The local board of education should make the determination.
They do.
I doubt that much significantly edifying evidence etc from satanism, Islam and paganism would be deemed to be sufficient quality by the boards, but perhaps some.
Neither would the evidence for your interpretation of the bible be. Wait we can test this. The boards are already deciding, and what have they decided? Yes that's right, you have no evidence (not even insufficient, but no evidence at all).

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Buzsaw
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Message 33 of 34 (554745)
04-09-2010 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Huntard
04-07-2010 5:41 AM


Re: Disallowed Evidence
Huntard writes:
Should we teach what some people like to be true in schools? Like Islam? Like the greek pantheon? Like satanism? Is that what we should do? Because that is what you are saying, isn't it?
Buzsaw writes:
The local board of education should make the determination.
They do.
Then why did you falsely imply my position to be that we should make the decision as to what to do?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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anglagard
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Message 34 of 34 (554931)
04-10-2010 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Buzsaw
04-06-2010 9:03 AM


Re: Too Weak to Argue Favorably
Buzsaw writes:
As a matter of fact, North Korea's absolute control of what information the kiddies get in that nation's science education more resembles your idea of truth than Buz''s, Anglagard. Perhaps yours would not stand on it's own (abe: here in the US of A ) if it weren't, like in NK, mandated as the only version available for consideration.
My argument is that you have an extreme minority interpretation of of the Bible and it appears to me the only way you can justify such an extreme viewpoint to the majority of adherents is through the use of force.
I find it interesting that there are actually some who consider the most important lesson of Christianity is which day is the day of rest regardless of anything Jesus may have said about how unimportant such an intense and overriding focus is to the ideal of Jesus. But this is not surprising, how many false prophets have there been?
Magic translating rocks, false predictions of the second coming in 1843 and them 1844 and then anytime you please, claims to personally herald the second coming as in Koresh and Manson etc. claims to actually be Jesus, as in the Sung Myong Moon, should all these aberrations be taught as gospel in the public schools?
Buz, the problem is that your self-inflated opinion of your magic ability to interpret the Bible for all for all time is just that, a product of egotistical delusion.
I find it interesting that virtually all self-important blowhards are psychologically incapable of even beginning to consider one lesson of Jesus, that of humility before God.
So the deal is piss off Buz, I will potentially cure ignorance as a master reference librarian, my sister will continue to remediate the awful effects of pollution from those who rape the earth, God's creation, from the sewer philosophy of the end is at hand, and my daughter will help feed the poor, heal the sick, and create prosperity thorough the study of science and engineering.
What have you done in the name of the ultimate teachings of Jesus (or Krishna, or Lhotse, or Confucius, or Buddha, or any of many who taught humility before God) lately?
Coral wheels in the Red Sea? is that really more important than the Sermon on the Mount?

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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