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celestialGyoud
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Message 31 of 100 (555444)
04-13-2010 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Vacate
04-09-2010 4:21 AM


Samples of compatible fruits
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Vacate writes:

..some bizarre definition.. making absurd claims about math and evolution.

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To state that the size of the Human brain is a product of natural selection
implies that the Human beings would have been multiplying for a time much longer than 98,000 years.

However, If the Humans had been multiplying and filling the earth for over 98,000 years
or 7 seasons of 14,000 years prior to Genesis chronology,

What are the probabilities that the population would have reached 6 billion persons
during each of the seasons of 14,000 years that precede the recent 7,000 years?

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not going to answer my questions...

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One does not always have internet access, specifically in wild places of Roraima, Amazon Forest.
Yesterday there was no electric light at all in the north side villages.

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Appropriate fruits (give one example perhaps?)

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The first is the fruit from the Tree of life: approximately 125 proteins found

The Tree of life, Morinda Citrifolia, is the only solid tree that accomplishes with these two facts highlighted in the book of Revelations as originally written,

- Gives her fruit every month; 12 times a year;
- Her leaves are proper for the general health of the nations.

Sample of fruits from the appropriate solid trees,

1st. Noni-fruit (Morinda Citrifolia) 2nd. avocado, 3rd. jabuticaba, 4th. persimmon, 5th. equatorial mango, 6th. orange, 7th. fig, 8th. peach, 9th. tropical tangerine, 10th. pomegranate, 11th. tamarindo, 12th. jackfruit, 13th. acerola, 14th. plum.

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quote:

Simplicity: food is made of the dust of the ground. You become what you eat.

After a certain age the aging process begins because it is not possible to profit from eating the nutrient properties which the food and bread are made of, because the Human body was made of the same nutrient properties from the dust of the ground.

Specificity: the nutrient properties of the fruits from the compatible trees are not made of the dust of the ground,

but of filtered properties produced by the same solid tree; her trunk is made up of millions of little bitty tubes that do filter all that must be purified and separate out in order for the fruit nutrients to be an exclusive property of the tree herself.


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Huntard
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Message 32 of 100 (555448)
04-13-2010 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by celestialGyoud
04-13-2010 4:53 PM


Re: How is the evolution doctrine indifferent to the Truth
CrazyDiamond7 writes:

To state that the size of the Human brain is a product of natural selection
implies that the Human beings would have been multiplying for a time much longer than 98,000 years.


That's nice, cause they were.

However, If it is true that the Human beings had been multiplying and filling the earth for over 98,000 years
or 7 seasons of 14,000 years prior to Genesis chronology,

What are the probabilities that the population would have reached 6 billion persons
during each of the seasons of 14,000 years that precede the recent 7,000 years?


0, since they didn't. Also, again, population growth is dependant on the resources available, before the advent of modern agriculture, resources would never have been enough to support such a population. Heck, we have trouble feeding everybody right now.

100 % of probability.

No actually, it's 0

I'll leave the rest to someone else.


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Vacate
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Message 33 of 100 (555562)
04-14-2010 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by celestialGyoud
04-13-2010 4:53 PM


How is the evolution doctrine even on topic?
A baby does not make the choice and therefore the babies are not responsible or authors of their own death.

You said that humans make the choice to die by eating incorrect foods. There are many humans that die having not eaten correct or incorrect foods. Now you are saying that very young humans fall under a different rule set.

Who made the choice for an infant to die a natural death? You say that there is no such thing as a natural death but then someone must be responsible for the death of a baby.

At what point do humans gain the ability to not die a natural death by eating correct foods?

When do the rules change and how did you find out about this change? If there is an experiment, can you provide the links?

evolution theory does bizarrely place the Human beings living 50,000 years prior

Ponder for a while on bacteria; I am sure you can answer your own questions about evolution, old Earth, and human populations.

I quess others can take up your challenge. I don't plan to go down this road as it seems to be so far off topic it needs its own thread.


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celestialGyoud
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Message 34 of 100 (555639)
04-14-2010 5:43 PM
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04-14-2010 8:01 AM


Death by old age is a choice
Who made the choice for an infant to die a natural death?

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the thread title might be changed to 'There is no death by old age'?

The term 'death by natural causes' had been chosen for the thread because 'Old age' is not a scientifically recognized cause of death.

So the meaning: there is no death by 'old age' because one decelerates the aging process by eating only the appropriate fruits from the solid trees.

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At what point do humans gain the ability to not die a natural death by eating correct foods?

Immortality is just stopping from dying by stopping from eating incompatible food.

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hotjer
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Message 35 of 100 (555644)
04-14-2010 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by celestialGyoud
04-14-2010 5:43 PM


Re: When the evolution theory does not feel at home
There is still a vital problem

The math does not make sense. /thread


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Huntard
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Message 36 of 100 (555748)
04-15-2010 8:58 AM
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04-14-2010 5:43 PM


Re: Death by old age is a choice
CrazyDiamond7 writes:

Experiment: Eat only the compatible fruits from the solid trees
Estimate time for reduction of intragastric acidity: 3 and a half weeks.
Approximate time to complete the purpose of the nervous system: 49 days


Ok, nice. You try that, and report back in 150 years, that should prove your ideas.
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celestialGyoud
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Message 37 of 100 (555768)
04-15-2010 10:37 AM
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04-15-2010 8:58 AM


Re: Death by old age is a choice
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You try that, and report..

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The info is given not to tell you to try anything,
but to let you know that there is an experiment available

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Huntard
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Message 38 of 100 (555772)
04-15-2010 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by celestialGyoud
04-15-2010 10:37 AM


Re: Death by old age is a choice
CrazyDiamond7 writes:

The info is given not to tell you to try anything,
but to let you know that there is an experiment available; an option rather than dying by natural causes or death by Old age.


Yes, and in order to prove that silly idea, I proposed a method to you. You go live like that, and report back here in 150 years. I guarantee you you will be believed.

In regards to the Human body, it is not proper for man to be told what to do by the man,
much less by a doctrine or evolution theory which is worth less than a man.

Great. Evolution doesn't say anything about what a man should do with this body. Go evolution!

If you search some men that speak in the name of the evolution theory you find many
and they speak in the name of a dead-living thing which is worth less than a man,

I'm sorry what? Are you saying evolution theory isn't alive? What next? Gravity is evil because it doesn't live!?

- it is not a Human being

Absolutely correct. Neither is a duck. Or a horse. Or gravity. Or an atom. What's your point exactly?

- It is not the Intelligent Designer that made the Human body

And true again. Wow, this is probably the most right you've been so far. But again, what is your point?

And if a doctrine or theory speaks not in the name of a specific Human being
then a beast is the type of living being that best illustrates the doctrinal image of a theory that is worth less than a Human being.

Quite right! Down with Christianity I say! Oh wait, that's not what you meant, is it?

And when speaking in the name of that doctrinal image or theory,
many have the bizarre habit of not speaking in the name of themselves
so that they might seem to be speaking in the name of something immortal.

Right on brother! Destroy religion... Wait I did something wrong again, didn't I?

Final conclusion -- Would you speak in the name of something allegedly immortal but that you know for sure is worth less than a Human being?

Nope. That's why I don't speak for god.
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celestialGyoud
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Message 39 of 100 (555808)
04-15-2010 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Huntard
04-15-2010 10:49 AM


Re: Death by old age is a choice
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I don't speak for god

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God or elohim does not speak. According to the book of IsaIah, a god [or elohim--god(s)] is less than nothing

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celestialGyoud
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Message 40 of 100 (555853)
04-15-2010 4:53 PM


Design and Purpose
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Perfection between Purpose and Design is to be demonstrated by experience

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celestialGyoud
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Message 41 of 100 (556004)
04-16-2010 5:08 PM


Perfection and Synchrony between Purpose and Design
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Origin of the term Perfection: Made For It

Datasegment online writes: Perfect \Per"fect\ parfet, parfait, F. parfait, L. perfectus, p. p. of perficere; Per - facere - to make

Per = For
Fectus = Made

there is no perfection if the Human body was made to die of old age.

For if [regular] food was made for the Human body,
then the Human body would have been made for [regular] food, and it would not be brought to naught.

In the same way the desires of the body were not made for the will of the flesh but to own the love of I AM
and the love of I AM to own the body.

In the New Living Translation (2007) the text between parenthesis exposes the texts that were inserted: it contains the mistranslations 'god' and 'elohim' in the place of EL which abbreviates ELYON [THE ONE THAT DECLARES].

You say, 'Food was made for the stomach, and the stomach for food.' (This is true, though someday [the] god will do away with both of them.)

In the English Standard Version (2001) the parenthesis was substituted with a dash, eclipsing even more.

Purpose and Design:

The purpose that the compatible fruit of the solid tree was designed and made for; to give permanence to the Human body.

If a person is free from aging process and death by old age for eating solely compatible fruits then the Human body was designed and made for permanence

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celestialGyoud
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Message 42 of 100 (561061)
05-18-2010 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Huntard
04-07-2010 5:20 AM


To return is stopping from dying
Huntard writes:

....gaining effective immortality.

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To return to immortality is stopping from dying when stopping from giving continuous sequence to a search for knowledge of food that does not remain. Routine food is a type of good that never strays apart from its evil, which costs four times more expensive than it appears.

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Message 43 of 100 (561186)
05-19-2010 10:14 AM
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05-18-2010 4:59 PM


Re: To return is stopping from dying
CrazyDiamond7 writes:

To return to immortality is stopping from dying when stopping from giving continuous sequence to a search for knowledge of food that does not remain. Routine food is a type of good that never strays apart from its evil, which costs four times more expensive than it appears.

I believe the tradition is to toke then pass. You seem to just be toking, probably constantly.


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Huntard
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Message 44 of 100 (561190)
05-19-2010 10:25 AM
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05-18-2010 4:59 PM


Re: To return is stopping from dying
Ok....

Come back when you've got something useful to say.


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Message 45 of 100 (561230)
05-19-2010 1:33 PM
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05-19-2010 10:14 AM


Re: To return is stopping from dying
I believe the tradition is to toke then pass.

In most cases we allow 2 tokes before the pass, but no more.

You seem to just be toking, probably constantly.

I resent that. My post's never sound like this guy's nonsense.

- Oni


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