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Message 50 of 62 (558223)
04-30-2010 11:36 AM

Reply to: Message 49 by Species8472
04-30-2010 11:30 AM

Re: Fearing fear itself

The argument that I am making is that if aliens do exist we should take a cautious step toward meeting them. I'm not saying they do exist and that they will conquer us. I am saying IFF they do exist, they might try to conquer us. And one of the ways they might use to conquer us is lure us in with promises and goods.

I am not sure what we could provide aliens capable of interstellar space travel with such that we would be worth conquering?

I also cannot see why, if that technologically advanced, they would need to dupe us with "promises and goods".

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Message 53 of 62 (558260)
04-30-2010 1:06 PM

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04-30-2010 12:32 PM

Re: Fearing fear itself

They may be incapable of seeing it "our" way.

And why should they?

Given that I have argued (elsewhere) that our own treatment of species that we consider inferior is rationally unjustifiable and that we would be hypocrites to expect anything different from alien visitors it would be silly of me to disagree with you.

There may be alien psychological reasons why they might want to subjugate us, quite apart from any question of resources. Maybe their evolution led to their adoption of a hierarchical system where those higher up are responsible for running the lives of those beneath them. This might make them think that taking control of us is the moral thing to do.

For reasons that may be wholly unjustified I think most assume that technological advancement and increasing moral enlightenment go hand in hand.

But you are quite right to point out that alien morality may take a very different path.

But it is all ifs, buts and maybes.

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Message 58 of 62 (558306)
04-30-2010 3:39 PM

Reply to: Message 57 by Species8472
04-30-2010 3:36 PM

Re: Fearing fear itself

Approach with caution or assume there is absolutely no reason for them to be agressive toward us and therefore just allow them to come down to our world and do whatever?

If they are technologically advanced enough to be here what is it you suggest we do as the "cautious" option anyway?

Nuke-Em?

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Message 60 of 62 (558407)
05-01-2010 6:17 AM

Reply to: Message 59 by Species8472
04-30-2010 3:53 PM

Re: Fearing fear itself

If an alien race that has the technology to undertake interstellar travel arrives on our doorstep and wants to do us harm I think it is fair to say we would be at a rather severe technological disadvantage in terms of trying to stop them. No?

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