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Author Topic:   Fossils, strata and the flood
Dr Adequate
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Message 74 of 163 (558537)
05-02-2010 5:40 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Faith
05-01-2010 5:34 PM


Re: Flood evidence on Mars?
Oh brother. Millions of years of nothing but limestone, then SUDDENLY allakazam! Millions of years of nothing but sandstone. What utter nonsense you all believe, when a worldwide Flood EASILY explains it all.
I sometimes wonder if you guys have a competition to see how many explicit or implicit mistakes you can get into a single paragraph.
Now, let me explain something to you. You know nothing whatsoever about geology, because you have never bothered to study it.
You should go away and study it.
Yes, that's exactly what I said to you about genetics.
Because you don't know the first damn thing.
In this case, you are trying to contrast two different ideas about why the rocks look like they look like --- without knowing what they look like. When you rambled on about genetics, you had some vague idea of what you were meant to be trying to explain. But now you've wandered into mouthing nonsense about geology, you don't even know what it is that you're trying to explain.
Go and read a textbook on geology.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 75 of 163 (558538)
05-02-2010 6:00 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Faith
05-01-2010 8:07 PM


Re: Flood evidence is everywhere you look
Evidence against geo theory: Ridiculous fact that layers were untouched by normal events such as canyon cutting, erosion by wind and weather and rivers, buckling and raising up by tectonic forces, until ALL were neatly in place. Evidence all over the earth.
This is probably the craziest thing that I have ever read anyone write about geology, and I am a connoisseur of creationist crazy.
Go on, read a geology textbook. A basic one. It'll have the word "Geology" in the title, or maybe "The Earth".
For fuck's sake,why don't you try to know about a subject before you talk about a subject? Why?
I mean, I'm currently trying to learn Spanish. If, before I'd tried to learn Spanish, someone had asked me the Spanish for "eggplant", I wouldn't have said with perfect confidence: "Ah, I know for certain that the Spanish for eggplant is asdkjhgueruh". I'd have said: "I don't know".
Now, after a little study, I think that the word is berenjena. But I am still not so sure of myself that I'd argue the point with an actual Spaniard who thought I was wrong.
But you ... you talk nonsense constantly about subjects that you have never bothered to study, and therefore know nothing about.
I have two questions for you.
First: how can you live with yourself?
And second: what would you do if you knew that in a month's time you were going to be dropped by parachute into a country that was monolingual Spanish? Would you then bother to find out what you were talking about? Would you actually then take the trouble to learn Spanish? Or would you continue with your policy of making stuff up?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 77 of 163 (558543)
05-02-2010 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Kitsune
05-02-2010 6:28 AM


Re: The depths of ignorance
This. You're embarrassing yourself in this thread because you are arguing against basic principles you clearly know nothing about.
It's not just that. It's that she wants the "basic principles" to explain made-up-"facts" that she and her creationist pals have invented. Whereas geology explains what the rocks actually look like.
It's not just that Faith is ignorant of the principles of geology. She is ignorant of the facts that those principles are meant to explain.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 79 of 163 (558546)
05-02-2010 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by Kitsune
05-02-2010 7:22 AM


Re: The depths of ignorance
Because this is just bizarre. It saddens me that someone could have lived so much of life as Faith has and instead of learning the most basic things about the earth she lives on, or taking a hike and looking around her ...
Yes.
It is so sad that someone can pass through this world and never bother to look at it. It is so full of amazing things.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 100 of 163 (558585)
05-02-2010 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Faith
05-02-2010 9:22 AM


It is what MUST have happened if you actually LOOK at the depth of the strata all over the earth, their neat horizontality and parallel form, and then THINK for a change.
But this is not what the rocks look like.
This is what I was talking about. You are not merely providing a failed explanation for what the rocks actually look like, you are providing a failed explanation for what you imagine that the rocks look like in the fantasy world in your head.
And then you have the gall to appeal to us, in capital letters, to "LOOK" at the rocks. Hey, Faith, there are people who've spent their whole adult lifetimes LOOKing at the rocks. Not at your fantasies about rocks, but at the actual rocks.
They're called geologists. You wanna guess how wrong they think you are?

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Message 103 of 163 (558591)
05-02-2010 6:17 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Percy
05-02-2010 5:26 PM


First, just to make sure you understand there's no claim that there's no such thing as horizontal and neatly parallel strata, here's an image of strata from the Grand Canyon.
Actually, they're not really horizontal, just nearly horizontal, and what you're looking at is more complicated and interesting than you think it is.
So, yeah, I (in association with every geologist in the world) claim that those are not actually horizontal strata laid down in succession one after the other.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 104 of 163 (558592)
05-02-2010 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Kitsune
05-02-2010 5:29 PM


Great picture. Says it all really, doesn't it?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 108 of 163 (558607)
05-03-2010 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by killinghurts
05-02-2010 11:38 PM


I would like a reasonable (i.e with clear evidence) reply to from the creationist community.
Well,you see, stuff happened which I made up and for which there is no evidence. And then other stuff happened which I made up, for which there is no evidence, and which is completely impossible. And then other stuff happened which I made up, for which there is no evidence, which is completely impossible, and which an invisible magical fairy in the sky did by magic.
And that is why every single detail of the fossil record testifies to the fact of evolution.
But I bet you thought that it was because evolution actually happened. Well, how naive is that?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 112 of 163 (559269)
05-07-2010 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by Architect-426
05-07-2010 10:56 PM


Re: "Geology" is jacked-up... Stratification = Massive Volcanism
Nice rant. I can't spot a single sentence in it which doesn't contain an explicit or implicit error. Your pastor must be very proud of you.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 127 of 163 (562744)
06-01-2010 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Percy
06-01-2010 6:30 AM


Re:
Rhetorical question: How could an real architect be unaware of such simple facts about the strength of materials?
Real architects don't have to know anything about the behavior of rocks at high temperatures and confining pressures. Indeed, nowadays architects rarely work with rocks.
So on those grounds it is possible that Architect-426 could puke out ignorant nonsense about geology and still be an architect.
However, that being said, I find it difficult to believe that anyone could be so darn stupid and still be an architect. If he is, then certainly I would never risk my life by entering any building that he's designed.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 154 of 163 (564476)
06-10-2010 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Architect-426
06-10-2010 12:30 PM


Re: Geology of the real world OR is it geo-fantasy???
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Hide and banner.

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