More evidence that Iraq is part crusade

I read the news today, oh boy.One of our US units is named "regulars by God" and go out asking to be shot at because they believe they are protected by God? Is this for real? Please tell me this is not for real... http://reuters.com/newsArticle...------------------
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Mespo, I don't mean to question your integrity, or anybody that ends up on the wrong end of a gun, but did you read the article I referred to?Whether the origin of regulars by god started as you claimed or not, the unit in question was using it as "regulars by GOD."And they do not happen to end up on the wrong end of a gun by happenstance, nor are they bravely defying those who might mean them harm.The article states that they believe they are endowed with immortality by God. That they cannot be hit no matter how many rounds are fired at them, and the commander pushes his men (as well as himself) into needlessly risky situations to try and prove his point.This kind of hubris is not only repulsive (according to Joralex in another thread, repulsive even to God), it is putting men and equipment in harms way for no reason than religious fanaticism. Ironically the same kind of religious fanaticism and ignorance we are supposed to be fighting against.You may have noticed they even quoted a soldier that transferred out of the unit specifically because they were acting like a bunch of lunatics. Unless you are telling me that your ship's captain maneuvered your ship in, slowing it down with broadsides exposed to the battery, and signaled the vietnamese to please open fire and put some pepper on it, because he had a magic amulet from God that would save everyone, your comparison is simply not the same.I would think anyone with experience in combat would have been appalled at the behavior of this unit's commander.------------------
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Every time I eat nutmeg I thank god and Reagan that Grenada was saved from the despicable hoards overrunning its glittering shores, and curse myself for being such a pussy as to not yet have basked in the afterglow of an orgasmic encounter with an M16.... back to realtime, I saw a great documentary on the actions of an insane special ops commander that needlessly lost men due to his overzealous conduct during Grenada.The guy was such an asshole yet the documentary makers tried to paint him in the best light possible, like some sort of action hero's action hero.And then I was watching another doc on Panama and the guy was there again! This time authorizing yet another illfated mission. Being a pro war doc, it still kept trying to paint a smily face on this guy's career, despite the fact that after this latest bungled expedition he was forced out of the military.What's this world coming to when guys that get troops killed for no other reason than to make a flashy entrance at parties get thrown out of the service? oh yeah... a sane one.------------------
holmes

heheheh... I think MrH got ya on that one.at least I took it as a joke------------------
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Anyone who think that only because a military unit has a moto taken from military history means the members of that unit are any more, or any less, religious than any other unit IS AN IDIOT!

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Hey moron, read the link. I understand that the motto came from something that was not a religious reference. The unit's commander has taken it further and the article explicitly makes that point.The fact that this has already come up as an issue and been dealt with in this thread makes your post extra ridiculous.Perhaps instead of speaking out so much, you should shut your yap and read slow enough to understand what is being said before replying.

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And to think this somehow proves OUR CORRECT actions in Iraq is some type of religious crusade, is the height of stupidity!

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There are many religious nuts that view Iraq (and our general war on terror) as a crusade. These include the very religious leaders who Bush interacts with regularly. If you do not understand that then you aren't getting out too much.In particular case I was addressing it was a unit commander that was treating his troop's activity in Iraq as part of a religious crusade, and higher ups were not putting a stop to it.If you want to argue that the Iraq War was a great idea, start a thread on it. But even if you take that position, I cannot believe you'd agree with the unit commander's actions in the linked article.Read the article Neil, and then come back and give your opinion.------------------
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Next, you should have said you were referring to a speech given be some officer and not just to the units motto... (Again showing you think others are mind readers.)... I replied to WHAT YOU SAID!... And my reply stands!

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You did not reply to what I said. If you notice it was not just about a motto, there was this word I used that linked it to the rest of the sentence which was even more important. The word was "and".Amazingly it seems you still haven't finished the sentence or read the link. This was not about a speech some officer made. It is about the ACTIONS of driving his men into hazardous situations and asking to be shot at because he believes God is protecting his unit... oh yeah and by the way that is why he applied the greater meaning to that unit's motto.Why don't you not be a total jerk and read everything through slowly, perhaps twice, before responding. There was no expectation on my part that anyone be a mind reader. That's why I provided a link.And on your retirement giving you more free time than me... exactly how old am I and what do I do for a living? How much free time do I get to spend on researching topics?Yeah, research that... jerk.(Note: If you'd like me to lay off the rough wording in my replies, cut me some slack and treat me nice. Not sure why you came at me in two different threads with guns blazing.)------------------
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I had a funny thought. You think if that commander in the article had been worshipping Egbesu instead of Yahweh he'd have gotten the boot?I'll bet a lot of people that say "right on" to a guy thinking Yahweh is stopping bullets, would be snickering at the idiot for thinking Egbesu was.------------------
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