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anglagard
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Message 57 of 109 (559276)
05-08-2010 2:10 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Peg
05-07-2010 7:39 PM


One Shoe Fits All When Foot is in the Mouth
Peg writes:
Anyway, organs of the body are the area of doctors and medical scientists...evolutionists should leave them alone in my opinion.
Well, despite the obvious fact someone has never heard of genetic disease or therapy, there is an even greater problem.
Please allow me to paraphrase:
Anyway, the origin, structure, evolution, and rules of the universe are the area of physicists...religious fanatics should leave them alone in my opinion.
Anyway, the structure, reactions, and byproducts of molecular interactions are the area of chemists...religious fanatics should leave them alone in my opinion.
Anyway, the history, structure, and evolution of the earth are the area of geologists...religious fanatics should leave them alone in my opinion.
Anyway, the structure, ecology, and evolution of living organisms are the area of biologists...religious fanatics should leave them alone in my opinion.
Anyway, the meaning, trends, and truthfulness of narratives involving past human history are the area of historians...religious fanatics should leave them alone in my opinion.
Should I go on?
In the words of Clevon Little in Blazing Saddles "I must, I must"
Anyway, discerning the true meaning of scripture, doctrine, and ancient languages are the area of theologians and linguistic experts...religious fanatics should be embarrassed in my opinion.
Edited by anglagard, : Change subtitle

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 864 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 67 of 109 (559390)
05-09-2010 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Peg
05-08-2010 7:08 PM


To Hell With the Sick is Not a Part of the NT
Peg writes:
imperfection leads to degeneration and death because the body is not as efficient at repairing and regenerating itself. In our perfect state, our bodies would be fully capable of this and thus disease and death would not cause us problems.
In Message 38 you wrote:
quote:
The Fall gives an explanation for disease and death so where we see disease and death the Fall is the explanation.
In Message 52 you wrote:
quote:
Anyway, organs of the body are the area of doctors and medical scientists...evolutionists should leave them alone in my opinion.
I must say I am glad that you are not in charge of curing disease, since you apparently ascribe all illness to 'the fall' instead of bacteria, viruses, and parasites.
Is this not against Jesus' dictum to heal the sick from the Sermon on the Mount or from his behavior in the NT? How would you heal the sick if you insist all illness is an incurable consequence of the fall?
Also, does your hypothesis also not indicate that people should be healthier the further back in time we go, in direct contradiction to the evidence?
Perhaps in speaking of the fall you are speaking in the singular, as though you have fallen into denouncing science, medicine, and Jesus' supposed own words with some absurd false prophet concept of "The Fall" that is not even recorded in the Bible.
Edited by anglagard, : Redo response to something more appropriate.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 864 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 68 of 109 (559396)
05-09-2010 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Peg
05-08-2010 8:08 PM


NOMAD Would be Proud
Peg writes:
what makes you think the universe is imperfect?
the earth is the perfect distance from the sun, it is in the perfect angle on its axis to create the 4 seasons and its spinning at the perfect speed... so, in regard to its position in the universe, what aspect of earth is imperfect?
So let me get this straight.
According to Peg:
non-life=perfect
life=imperfect
Where did you learn your philosophy from, NOMAD the intelligent satellite in Star Trek: TOS?
Reference: The Changeling (Star Trek: The Original Series) - Wikipedia

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
Member (Idle past 864 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 74 of 109 (559482)
05-09-2010 10:27 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Peg
05-09-2010 7:27 PM


My Apology
Peg writes:
Did I?
Oh, maybe you should report me...or rate my message
Checking back, you are not the author of message 38, Faith was. Out of laziness I cut and pasted a response to message 38 that falsely accused you of being the author.
My mistake, I apologize and will be careful to make sure you are not falsely accused by me of statements made by others in the future.
I should have known better than to trust another person's post when I could have simply looked it up myself.
I should also know by now that when I get too wound up, something is wrong.
Edited by anglagard, : Correct another mistake, this time in grammar.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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