Not only Intelligent Design - but DIVINE DESIGN!

Hello Anita and welcome to EVC! This is all very INTERESTING!!! Could you please explain this? I think you got excited and forgot to explain the incredible importance of planets and menstrual cycles.....

Anita, the lunar cycle is approximately 29.5 days, which leaves 1.5 days unaccounted for in your philosophy.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Why did you stop at four decimals? Is it because from the fifth they are no longer the decimal expansion of pi? Today, we know the value of pi to a precision of more than 2699999990000 decimals. Your conclusion is unwarranted.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Yes, this may be the case regarding Hawaiian pillow basalts with anomalous K-Ar ages because it may have something to do with trapping argon before it can escape? It may be that this particular rock is unsuitable for radiometric dating. But it still does not erase the fact that WATER causes elements to leak out do to solubility, thus not allowing us to get proper dates and likewise as we can see with the Hawaiian volcano. The conclusion here is carbon or radiometric dating (if its older than the half-life) is basically for the birds since it is unreliable! Carbon only has a half-life! Have these marine shells (that you have dated) recently died? Additionally marine shells are not rocks unless they are petrified (in which case cannot be dated). Evidence of Noah’s Flood can be seen all over the earth, from seabed’s to mountaintops. The Earths terrain clearly indicates a catastrophic past, from canyons and craters to coal beds and caverns. Some layers of strata extend across continents, revealing the effects of a huge catastrophe. The earth’s crust has massive amounts of layered sedimentary rock, sometimes miles (kilometers) deep! These layers of sand, soil, and material - mostly laid down by water - were once soft like mud, but they are now hard stone. Encased in these sedimentary layers are billions of dead things (fossils of plants and animals) buried very quickly! The evidence is EVERYWHERE!Oh you would be amazed Coyote! There is ample enough evidence for Noah’s Great worldwide flood and its just not found in rock strata, but in human population growth.If we have a current population of approximately 7 billion people on the planet today, and we‘ve been taking population censuses ever since biblical times and it has been determined that the world population has historically doubled every 150 years. This works out nicely upon which the 7 billion population we have today is equivalent to 8 people walking off an ark and 150 years later there are only 12 people (give or take a few) on the earth and 300 years later 24 people (give or take a few) on the earth. If you estimate this correctly you only have to double 30 times to get the current population of the world 30x150 years means they walked off that ark after the great flood approximately 4500 years ago. It may not be a perfect method or estimation, but it sure does agree with G-d’s word.Edited by Anita Meyer, : No reason given.

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Author Anita Meyer anitameyer1@hotmail.com
The Primordial Language - Confirmation of the Divine Creator
http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpubli.../...guage.html

Hello Aiki,I’d have to say that Birds are complicated in truly understanding gestation periods, since this includes the time between laying and hatch, but animals highlight this for us enough to know that birds are also subjected to it despite the discriminate time between laying and hatching. Edited by Anita Meyer, : No reason given.

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Author Anita Meyer anitameyer1@hotmail.com
The Primordial Language - Confirmation of the Divine Creator
http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpubli.../...guage.html

Now it would be even more impressive if all animals had a gestation periods based on 7 but you can see form this link that it is not so. Most is not the correct word. Would you mind providing your source so we can see where you get this misinformation from. Also, for birds you might want to use the term incubation period. That period does not begin until all eggs are layed.Your figure of 280 days for human is actually not correct. The actual gestation period is approx 266 days. The 280 day figure is counted from the start of the last menstrual period. The reason the 266 and 280 number are used is not because of some magical power of 7, but the fact that weeks are 7 days long. 266 is 9 months or 38 weeks and 280 is 9.5 months or 40 weeks. It is hard not to get a mutliple of 7 when you are using a week as the reference.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

As you can see here there are plenty of exceptions to your "rule of 7" , and many of them are inaccurate as well. As far as gestation periods are concerned, nothing can be concluded from them with regard to a special meaning of the number 7.

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

Dokukaeru, thank you for welcoming me! Both Dokukaeru and Parasomnium,The amazing thing about a woman’s menstrual cycle is that it takes place every 28 days and lasts for approximately seven days. However seven days prior to the onset of a cycle certain hormonal chemicals come into play and a woman can start to feel her breast hurting. And after the seven day cycle the hormones begin to decrease within the next seven days. The menstrual cycle is broken down and deduced within a month (4 weeks in a month x 7 days in a week, equals 28 days). The reason a woman gets her menstrual cycle on the 28th day of each month, and why the menstrual cycle last for 7 days, is because Eve had to have been created on the 6th day late in the evening possibly around the early hours of the approaching 7th day. Which in the scheme of things may have some relevance to why a woman’s menstrual cycle last for 7 days (4 weeks in a month x 7 days in a week, equals 28 days). It may also have something to do with the fact that the Moon makes a complete turn (or cycle) around the earth in approximately 29 days. From new Moon to new Moon is a synodic time lasting 29.53059 days (precisely 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, 2.8 seconds). And the sidereal cycle, the measure taken from where the moon appears at the same place in the sky which is 27.33 days. Since neither of these cycles accurately measure the solar cycle the 28th day is an average of the two main lunar cycles. Edited by Anita Meyer, : No reason given.

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Author Anita Meyer anitameyer1@hotmail.com
The Primordial Language - Confirmation of the Divine Creator
http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpubli.../...guage.html

Gestation may very - depending on the New/Full Moon.This 7 day cycle can also be witnessed in the duration days from the onset of a diseases symptoms, development and resolve. Even organ transplant patients tend to have more rejection episodes on the 7/8th , 14/15th , 21/22nd, and 28/29th days after surgery. These dates fall on days slightly before a full moon WHICH SHOULD BE A DAY OF REST! In effect the body’s immune system attack the foreign organ. Furthermore, an even bigger rejection occurs seven days after the organ transplant operation. It is also further witnessed that medications administered at particular times may be more effective than at other times. And, it has also been witnessed that viruses, pneumonia, and malaria infection peak at seven days. Most of us are also familiar with the common cold usually lasting a period of 7days (sometimes even two weeks). Edited by Anita Meyer, : No reason given.

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Author Anita Meyer anitameyer1@hotmail.com
The Primordial Language - Confirmation of the Divine Creator
http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpubli.../...guage.html

The average of the two cycles is approximately 28.43 days. That's still almost half a day off.For all I know the female menstrual cycle may have something to do with the lunar cycle, I wouldn't think that very strange. But your convoluted arguments to arrive at a conclusion about the specialness of the number 7, because it corresponds with the Biblical story, are nothing but just-so stories.If there really was something special about the number 7 because God would have it so, then you'd expect him to have taken some trouble in smoothing out the inaccuracies, wouldn't you?

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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

The figures I gave you are for actual incubation periods, not including the variable and irrelevant amount of time between laying and the start of incubation, when no embryonic development occurs. Even so, incubation periods are not consistent but vary by about 15% within a species, primarily because of temperature variation (source - BTO Birdfacts again).I don't think I understand what you're getting at in the second part of your message, but I see that Parasomnium already pointed out some of the many exceptions to the 'rule of seven' among mammals (I'm assuming that's what you mean by 'animals').

That's been published in the professional medical literature? JAMA or BMJ, perhaps? Anita, I'm intrigued by this. Surely you'll share your source...........surely?

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"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD

That was not my post; I don't do K-Ar or any of those radiometric dating methods.However, your "leaking" argument is incorrect for radiocarbon dating. Radiocarbon dating measures the ratios between C12 and C14, and usually includes C13 as a means of achieving greater accuracy. Leaking would affect all three and would not render the method inaccurate. 1) I am aware of the half-life of C14. However, C12 does not have a half-life, as it is not undergoing radioactive decay; nor does C13, a stable isotope. The fact that C14 has a half-life is what allows us to date it! That fact can't be used as an argument against the method as radiocarbon dating would be impossible otherwise.2) Marine shells make fine specimens for radiocarbon dating. No, they are not rocks. You can't radiocarbon date rocks, but shells contain carbon so they can be radiocarbon dated. And when they died is what you measure when doing radiocarbon dating. I have obtained dates on shell back some 9,000 years, and my colleagues have gone quite a bit older than that. Evidence of water deposition is found in many places. Unfortunately for your case, those deposits are spread over hundreds of millions of years! For evidence of Noah's flood we would need to see deposits centered around 4,350 years ago so. Cambrian deposits, for example, do you no good (being over 500 million years too old). For the time period associated with the flood story (about 4,350 years ago) you need to examine soils, not rocks, and that leads to archaeology rather than geology.And archaeology is what I do. Again, unfortunately for your case, neither archaeology or sedimentology provide evidence for your a priori beliefs and conclusions. In fact, they refute them convincingly. The early creationist geologists, seeking to document the global flood, gave up just about 200 years ago.All you need to do to refute the idea of a worldwide flood about 4,350 years ago is find one archaeological site with a deposit cross-cutting that time period but showing no evidence of a discontinuity that could be attributed to a massive flood. I have tested over a hundred sites that cross-cut that time period, and what I have found is continuity of human cultures, fauna and flora, site formation, and in one case continuity of mtDNA. In other words, there was no discontinuity in just those things that would be disrupted by a flood.This same continuity is found in virtually all sites which cross-cut that time period. The human population growth argument is too old and tired to be worth refuting once again. It is a creationist fantasy.What is becoming increasingly obvious is that you have no personal knowledge of radiocarbon dating, nor other methods of radiometric dating. You are picking and choosing bits and pieces from creationist websites because they agree with your religious beliefs.Unfortunately, you have no way of knowing when those bits and pieces are horribly wrong as you have not studied the method yourself. What is even worse is that, based on your superficial knowledge, you come here and lecture professionals who use these methods in their work, and have for decades.That is not likely to get you a very good reception.Similarly, your evidence for a worldwide flood is bits and pieces carefully selected to suggest a flood while ignoring the overwhelming evidence that contradicts the bits and pieces as well as the whole notion of a recent worldwide flood.If you are attempting to do science you have to account for all of the data with your theory. You can't selectively ignore the data you don't like. That is apologetics and creation "science" which are pretty much the exact opposite of real science.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Since she did not want to tell what her academic background is herself I write it myself instead:Graduated from Maine East High School in Park Ridge IllinoisAttending Hebrew school and latter living in Israel for a year.Attended college for two years in the field of Criminology. Though she did not follow through in this field.source: Anita B Meyer (author) on AuthorsDen

Anita, here's a little piece written 142 years ago now that utterly destroys your "flood geology."http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/CE8/Chalk.htmlThe last fourteen decades of real geology only reinforces Huxley's essay. There was no Noachian Flood. Not ever.

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"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD