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Author Topic:   Return to Immortality -- There is no death by natural causes
goldenlightArchangel
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Message 42 of 100 (561061)
05-18-2010 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Huntard
04-07-2010 5:20 AM


To return is stopping from dying
Huntard writes:
....gaining effective immortality.
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To return to immortality is stopping from dying when stopping from giving continuous sequence to a search for knowledge of food that does not remain. Routine food is a type of good that never strays apart from its evil, which costs four times more expensive than it appears.
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Message 46 of 100 (561241)
05-19-2010 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Huntard
05-19-2010 10:25 AM


Why it is impossible to abstain from routine food
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....when you've got something useful to say.
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Of course the Initial instruction of Genesis will not be useful to some, and how could it be, to whomever has already decided beforehand that he will become dust of the ground in exchange for temporarily knowing the food again
and for ignoring the possibility of proceeding at least a 49-days verification experience.
quote:
From the dust — The nutrients of the routine food come from the dust of the ground. You become what you eat. After 49 years old the aging process accelerates because it is not possible to profit from eating the nutrient properties which the regular food is made of since the Human body was made of the same properties from the dust of the ground.
From the solid tree — Nutrients of the compatible fruits do not come from the dust of the ground. They are filtered essences produced by the tree. The extension of her trunk is made up of millions of little bitty tubes that do filter and separate the nutrients out. On this, the fruit of the solid tree is a property given exclusively by the tree.
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Message 47 of 100 (561585)
05-21-2010 2:07 PM


Why the natural selection theory becomes obsolete
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Because it is very easy for a scientist or creator of that theory to tell you that the size of your brain is a product of natural selection since all he has to do is tell you that it depended on a million or hundreds of thousand years to evolve, based on the presentation of a skeleton that is not a Human genetic combination,
However, if you asked the following question to those who tell the natural selection story to the children, then many scientists have the habit of keeping silent and reserving the right to not answer,
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What are the probabilities that the population would have reached 6 billion persons
during each of the seasons of 14,000 years that precede the recent 7,000 years?
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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 51 of 100 (561946)
05-24-2010 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by subbie
05-21-2010 4:41 PM


Any educational directives that have not been camouflaged
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That is, one chooses for the children, a directive that has not been camouflaged.
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That there were no Humans living on the Earth 50 thousand years ago is evident once one verifies and ascertains the facts from real life experiences, that all things the Humans have done with regards to multiplying and filling the Earth within a single cluster of 7 thousand years, they would have done anyway during any of the three seasons of 14 thousand years prior to the chronology of Genesis.
And if you separate the recent 49 thousand years dividing it into three separated sequences of 14 thousand years, immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years, and then inquire what is the probability that the population would have reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years,
and even so the question you ask is deemed to be a tough or non comprehensible one, then there is 100% of probability that you’re discovering a rank of the row that matters more, causing many to not answer because of the perception that to answer it is producing proof against a theory on which rely I. many jobs, II. educational directives, III. sponsorships, IV. books and V. teachings about the origin of the Human body.
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subbie writes:
.what point .you are going to make from this response?
.Also, on what do you base .that many scientists have the habit of keeping silent and reserving the right not to answer
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Even having science--verification ascertained-- of the facts to see that there is a disconnection of time and place, many do not see the disconnection between the consequence of having Humans on the Earth for a time no longer than 7 thousand years and the time proposed for their multiplication by the natural selection theory that places the Humans to live on the land 50 thousand years ago. Because it is verified by experiences of real life that all things the Humans have done to the place called Earth during the short cluster of 7 thousand years, they would have done anyway in each of the three rows of 14 thousand years that immediately precede the Genesis chronology.
However, it doesn’t matter because the many jobs and the reputation of many Universities come first in the rank of the row that matters more, whether that reputation has been camouflaged or not, followed by the books and other things that produce a financial comfort, and only then in the last place comes the attention given to what is it that’s been told to man that should be taught to the children.
And wherever there is a tendency to give priority to credibility rather than to what is it that is being credited, (because to give credit is giving financial resources), then every reputation is a camouflage.
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Message 53 of 100 (562095)
05-25-2010 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Phage0070
05-24-2010 5:32 PM


Re: Any educational directives that have not been camouflaged
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Phage0070 writes:
past events don't have probabilities
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The question that initiates the discovery that the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body becomes obsolete, is not asking for one to bring up any probability from past events but from what Humans are according to their nature, and what they are is proved from what they have done and do with regards to generating a child, and from what they have done and do to the Earth when building a home for a loved one.
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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 55 of 100 (562194)
05-26-2010 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Phage0070
05-25-2010 6:48 PM


Any educational directives that have not been camouflaged
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Phage0070 writes:
.It is literally nonsense
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According to Datasegment online the synonym of bring up is mention.
Therefore, in English language,
the question is not asking for you to mention any probability from past events;
Instead, the question asks for you to bring up (or mention) the probability based on what the Humans intrinsically are,
(intrinsically; adv 1: with respect to its inherent nature -- Internally; in its nature; essentially; 1913 Webster),
and what they are is proved from what they have done and do with regards to generating a child, and from what they have done and do to the Earth when building a home for a loved one.
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Phage0070 writes:
.isn’t a question or concept that makes sense
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---- When the concept of probability for population growth is applied to kangaroos; and when the Australian government says that ‘a kangaroo population can increase fourfold in five years if it has continuous access to plentiful food and water’, then nobody says it is not a concept that makes sense.
But if it's applied to Human population growth, with total risk of damage to the reputation of the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body,
then is that not too much coincidence that all of a sudden it doesn't make sense?
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On the days that the following quotation isn’t deemed to be comprehensible,
one has the option of decrypt it by the path of neither led, neither unledded perception,
then the message in it becomes understood over the hills and far away,
for it has the info one needs, maybe more than enough.
Mellow is the man who admits his theory has been put in check mate,
while many ‘many men’ can't see that the road is open to a better job
How many directives have been camouflaged, one really ought to know.
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quote:
That there were no Humans living on the Earth 50 thousand years ago is evident once one verifies and ascertains the facts from real life experiences, that all things the Humans have done with regards to multiplying and filling the Earth within a single cluster of 7 thousand years, they would have done anyway during any of the three seasons of 14 thousand years prior to the chronology of Genesis.
And if you separate the last 49 thousand years dividing it into three separated sequences of 14 thousand years, immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years, and then inquire what is the probability that the population would have reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years,
and even so the question you ask is deemed to be a tough or non comprehensible one, then there is 100% of probability that you’re discovering a rank of the row that matters more, causing many to not answer because of the perception that to answer it is producing proof against a theory on which rely I. many jobs, II. educational directives, III. sponsorships, IV. books and V. teachings about the origin of the Human body.
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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 59 of 100 (562291)
05-27-2010 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Phage0070
05-26-2010 5:18 PM


Answering the six billion diamond question
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If one separates the last 49 thousand years dividing it into three separated sequences of 14 thousand years, immediately prior to the last seven thousand years,
What are the probabilities that the population would have reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years?
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Due to the perspective that there would have been Humans living on the Earth 70 thousand years ago, the probability of reaching 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years is above 100% because of the fact that when the population of the Earth was 1 million persons it took much less than 7 thousand years to reach 1 billion.
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70 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Minimum extreme limit: . . . . . . . . . 10,000 inhabitants
50 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Basic extreme limit: . . . . . . . . 1 million inhabitants
49 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The beginning of the three seasons of 14 thousand years
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Making the distinction between ascertained probability (verified) and credited probability (when reason is applied to presume),
The probability that is ascertained does offer the possibility of one verifying that the probability is real because it is firmed into the foundation of real facts.
The probability that is credited or presumed does take something other than knowledge of the facts as a reason to presume that the fact could or could not have happened. Whenever it is stated that ‘past events don’t have probabilities’ it is stated in reference to a type of probability that is credited or presumed. And whenever a reason is established to presume that a real fact could or could not have taken place, that proceeding is similar to the type of probability that the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body has had the habit to offer to the inhabitants of the land.
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When answering that the probability of having reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years is: ‘0, since they didn’t’ and ‘zero; it never happened’,
Does that point of view not fit with the parable of the diamonds robbed, where a man inside the bank states to the detective: ‘Since the vault containing the diamonds that were evaluated at six billion, was robbed at 7:00 p.m., then it is the proof left for us that 49 days ago (prior to it being robbed) the probability of the vault being robbed at 1:14 a.m., or at 2:14 a.m, or at 3:14 a.m. is Zero.
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Phage0070 writes:
Then it is the word probability that is the trouble
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Sure. *cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In this, one has the option to make the distinction ---- When it is the right type of probability then instruction and knowledge of the facts are given not for one to presume or take as truth the things that can not be known (verified and ascertained) by taking it as [if it was] true,
and the term 'take as ....', which means 'likewise'; also means that a comparison is made to a truth that is not known since it is by believing,
then whomever does not want to be sure for having a need to give credit so that he can say that, believing, he is a creditor of salvation and merit; or that he is a saved (special) one, and is not like all the other persons; he has credit by having fides that is credited (warranted) by the spirits of men (potentates from down);
and fides quae creditur coincides with the system of the dragonthe father of the beliefs whose true name is Legion (Heb. Ravbwhich means ‘to be many’) who was made to be a specialist on camouflages, because it is not possible to deceive except by making believe. And all that is camouflage does coincide with that system.
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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 61 of 100 (562302)
05-27-2010 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Phage0070
05-27-2010 6:22 PM


Re: Answering the six billion diamond question
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Phage0070 writes:
....People require food, shelter, ...
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Is there any evidence that the basic limit of 1 million inhabitants, (who would have been living on the Earth 49 thousand years ago), would have been not able to create and do all things that the Humans (in the last and single cluster of 7 thousand years), have done when the population of the Earth was 1 million inhabitants?
It is not possible for one to prove that the answer is wrong by a type of probability that is credited or presumed, which takes something other than knowledge of the facts as a reason to presume that the fact could or could not have happened.
quote:
Whenever a reason is established to presume that a real fact could or could not have taken place, that probability is presumed and is similar to the type of probability that the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body has had the habit to offer to the inhabitants of the land. And whenever it is stated that ‘past events don’t have probabilities’ it is stated in reference to a type of probability that is credited or presumed. .
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If one separates the last 49 thousand years dividing it into three separated sequences of 14 thousand years, immediately prior to the last seven thousand years,
What are the probabilities that the population would have reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years immediately prior to the last 7 thousand years?
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Due to the perspective that there would have been Humans living on the Earth 70 thousand years ago, the probability of reaching 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years is above 100% because of the fact that when the population of the Earth was 1 million persons it took much less than 7 thousand years to reach 1 billion.
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70 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Minimum extreme limit: . . . . . . . . . 10,000 inhabitants
50 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Basic extreme limit: . . . . . . . . 1 million inhabitants
49 thousand years ago . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The beginning of the three seasons of 14 thousand years
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Making the distinction between ascertained probability (verified) and credited probability (when reason is applied to presume),
The probability that is ascertained does offer the possibility of one verifying that the probability is real because it is firmed into the foundation of real facts.
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When answering that the probability of having reached 6 billion persons in each of the three seasons of 14 thousand years is: ‘0, since they didn’t’ and ‘zero; it never happened’,
Does that point of view not fit with the parable of the diamonds robbed, where a man inside the bank states to the detective: ‘Since the vault containing the diamonds that were evaluated at six billion, was robbed at 7:00 p.m., then it is the proof left for us not to even mention the probability of the vault being robbed the other day at 1:14 a.m., or at 2:14 a.m, or at 3:14 a.m. (time of the attempts to rob the bank 49 days prior to it being robbed), since that probability is Zero.
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Message 64 of 100 (562420)
05-28-2010 4:22 PM


Conclusion of the parable of the diamonds robbed
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When answering that past events do not have probability the man inside the bank does clearly demonstrate an attempt to stop the job of the detectives,
because his only focus is on the final result of the bank being robbed, by highlighting only the impossibility that anyone would have reached that result, to justify that a person should definitely not quiz nor inquire about the fact that some many men had been planning to place themselves before the vault 49 days ago, saying,
Let everyone abandon that perspective of 70 days ago and cease from investigating the past attempts to rob the bank 49 days ago, (during the time that was mentioned, from 1:14 a.m. to 3:14 a.m.) since they didn’t make it and the probability is Zero; it never happened. ---- A proposal similar to what many men have been doing when suggesting that the question is unnintelligeble and should not be asked.
Another coincidence is that the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body, which many men precisely rely on, is the one that becomes obsolete when the investigation is complete for not abandoning the clear perspective of the past events that have been often proposed by the same natural selection theory when placing the Humans to live on the Earth 70 thousand years ago.
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Therefore, for not presenting any evidence that the basic extreme limit of 1 million inhabitants could not reach 1 billion inhabitants in less than 7 thousand years, or that it could not reach 6 billion inhabitants in less than 14 thousand years, the zero probability that had been answered had been showing itself up to be applied to the theory that gave support to those many men,
because the natural selection theory for the origin of the Human body was made with the attempt to place them before the vault (as it was seen in the parable), for planning that the Humans would be there, but the six billion diamonds were not robbed in the time their theory attempted to.
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Final conclusion ---- the phrase 'past events don’t have probabilities' only works against the presumption or theory that becomes lost, when proof is produced against the lie, but in no moment, in real life, can it work to impede an investigation in progress.
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A man inside the bank states to the detective: Since the vault containing the diamonds that were evaluated at six billion was robbed at 7:00 p.m., then it is the proof left for us not to even mention the probability of the vault being robbed the other day at 1:14 a.m., or at 2:14 a.m., or at 3:14 a.m. (time that the attempts to rob the bank occurred, 49 days prior to it being robbed) since that probability is Zero.
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Message 70 of 100 (567295)
06-30-2010 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Vacate
04-07-2010 5:05 AM


the real cause of death by old age
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An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating, even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium, proteins and hormones that are released from the brain in order for the production of the gastric juice necessary to digest that same food.
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Message 71 of 100 (576933)
08-26-2010 2:35 PM


About intragastric acidity
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All Human hormones and proteins necessary to produce that gastric juice; the precise acidity of the gastric juice is not reached without a Human living substance being wasted by eating what is dead.
And once it becomes the gastric juice then that living Human substance becomes a decomposition substance.
You might read an excerpt of The Thomas Gospel about that,
the part that says, 'when you ate what is dead you were making that into what is living....'
The cow meat or dead flesh takes a living substance to digest,
the more cow meat you have to digest, the more living substance you will need to decompose it
and the more death smelling will be the acidity of that juice
that is the death spoken about in Genesis, in the words 'in the day you eat from it you will be dying.'
quote:
A knowledge of good and evil consequences. The olive tree introduced to man the desire to know the food again and again, of a constant manner and in a continuous sequence.
A form of knowledge that the Human body was not made to retain or resist since the irresistible food can only be known and retained by a brief moment when knowing the food again. Food that is perishable and mortal is that gives a knowledge that does not remain and it is a good thing that it does not endure; it makes to die because it can only be retained and known by the release and decomposition of the living substance of nutrient property that was composed and made to be intrinsically Human.
The beginning of the deceleration of the aging process is not to waste more nutrients and hormones, keeping the medulla oblongata and the brain as new by only eating the compatible fruits from the solid trees, because a row of composed nutrient substance would not need to be set apart and decomposed to produce the precise type of gastric juice that is required to digest a dead flesh or regular food.
The more living substance is decomposing, the more death-smelling will be the acidity of that juice.
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From the fruits of the solid trees you can freely eat - The term solid tree is used in the translation to make distinction between actual trees --e.g. avocado tree-- and plants that are palm-trees or of soft trunk. — Freely — Human body was made to remain free from deseases and death of natural causes.
Except one — The olive is a fruit, however, it is also oil for food, (usual cooking oil). Equally the taste of the olive oil was not made to be mixed or combined with the fruits of the other solid trees. The olives were made to be oil for routine food.



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Message 74 of 100 (577828)
08-30-2010 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Phage0070
08-27-2010 12:15 PM


Re: The real cause of death by old age
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[qs=Phage0070] If a instruction says that you will not die as long as you only eat compatible fruits that is not a bad craziness
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Message 75 of 100 (578351)
09-01-2010 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Phage0070
05-27-2010 10:36 PM


ascertained truth of the facts
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The truth that is known and not believed, is the fact that was proved by experience; and it is the fact that all things the Humans have done to the place called Earth in just one sequence of 14 thousand years, they would have done the same thing anyway.
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Message 76 of 100 (581216)
09-14-2010 3:24 PM


If Evolution were right then the majority of casualties would be avoided
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If Evolution were right then the brain would evolve and
man would gradually think more by himself rather than just based on the orders being received, just as the Roman soldiers did 2 thousand years ago,
because they decided to use bullet proof shields during the invasions;
And then there would have been approximately 70% less casualties of soldiers during the invasion of Normandy.
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Message 78 of 100 (581611)
09-16-2010 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Phage0070
09-15-2010 8:00 PM


Re: If Evolution were right then the majority of casualties would be avoided
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Phage0070 writes:
It may be related to EvC's general goal, but specific evolutionary challenges appear to be off topic within Faith and Belief.
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Friend, what's it that afflicts you?
These texts are in the appropriate place, that is the belief zone, since many have been taught to work up the belief that the death by old age is unavoidable.
A variety of clues are found use of incompatible food is the real cause of death by old age.
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