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Author Topic:   Creationists: Why is Evolution Bad Science?
Dr Adequate
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Message 246 of 283 (525308)
09-22-2009 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by vampcat.
09-22-2009 8:46 PM


okay people... evolution is not bad science. it was Darwins way of making the creation story more easier to understand. if you really think about it, God had to be involved in both because i don't see how anything could have evolved by its self...
Define "involved" and "by itself".
Are you happy with, for example, the proposition that rain falls by itself? Would you say that God was involved or not involved in the process?
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Dr Adequate
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Message 254 of 283 (553295)
04-02-2010 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by Peg
04-01-2010 8:39 AM


Before i go on, does this sound correct?
No. Mainly because you apparently have no idea what "assumption" means.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 256 of 283 (553342)
04-02-2010 8:07 PM
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04-02-2010 5:11 PM


Re: Assumptions
To a creationist, all assumptions used by science are automatically false if they disagree with revelation, scripture and the like.
So far as I know, there is one and only one assumption of science --- that we can find out about the world by looking at it.
The things that Peg lists as assumptions are certainly not assumptions.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 259 of 283 (564956)
06-14-2010 3:10 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by Jzyehoshua
06-14-2010 2:52 AM


Re: Assumptions
That last statement is especially good - while I.D. may not fit the test to be classified as science, evolutionary theory if subjected to the same rigors would likely not pass either.
Scientists think you're wrong.
This is because they know about science, and (as the immense ignorance displayed throughout your post reveals) you don't.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 261 of 283 (564960)
06-14-2010 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 260 by Jzyehoshua
06-14-2010 3:16 AM


Re: Assumptions
If at some point you see fit to address my points rather than trying to attack me with ad hominem tactics, let me know. Until then, you've left me nothing to respond to that wouldn't dissolve this topic into a petty name-calling match.
If you would care to argue for your absurd fantasy, then I shall point out the flaws in your argument. If, on the other hand, you just want us to take your word for it, then there is nothing to be said except that on the subject of biology it would obviously be idiotic to take your word for anything.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 263 of 283 (564971)
06-14-2010 4:53 AM
Reply to: Message 262 by Jzyehoshua
06-14-2010 4:26 AM


Re: Assumptions
If you'd actually tried pointing out flaws in the argument I would've responded.
The flaw is that it's not an argument. It's an assertion --- and an assertion made by someone who is clearly singularly unqualified to make assertions about science.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 265 of 283 (564975)
06-14-2010 6:16 AM
Reply to: Message 264 by Jzyehoshua
06-14-2010 5:10 AM


Re: Assumptions
If you really want to get into this, aren't YOU 'singularly unqualified' to make these objections according to forum rules?
No. Any forum member is qualified to point out that you are in breach of rule 4.
What I take offense to is that, unable to beat the logic or reasoning of an opponent's argument ...
You provided neither logic nor reasoning, but a fantasy unsupported by either. Unable to beat it? I'm unable to find it.
... you are forced of necessity, to try to silence me by saying unless I provide X qualifications my opinion and freedom of speech are worthless and irrelevant.
You are, of course, not telling the truth. And since you are being untruthful about what I have written on this very thread, I hardly know whom you can hope to deceive.
While I am not sure what communist country you speak this from, this is typically frowned upon in my native nation.
I live in the USA, the constitution of which guarantees my right to point out that unsupported assertions are unsupported assertions. It's called "freedom of speech", you may have heard of it.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 273 of 283 (565090)
06-14-2010 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Jzyehoshua
06-14-2010 12:23 PM


Re: Assumptions
However, I didn't see Dr. Adequate bring up this point. All I was hearing was, "unless you prove you're a scientist you have no room to say anything on this forum" ...
It's funny that you should have "heard" that, since it was not remotely like anything I said.
Still, given how grotesquely you've managed to misunderstand Darwin, I suppose it's not that surprising.

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