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Tanypteryx

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Message 7 of 752 (565779)
06-20-2010 2:16 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by SwampDonkey
06-20-2010 2:51 AM

A couple more questions

1 If we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys around?

2 How come we haven't evolved telepathy? It seems like that would come in handy.

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Message 444 of 752 (598587)
01-01-2011 1:20 PM

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01-01-2011 12:05 PM

mike the wiz writes:

I believe in many of the following;

Genetic drift
natural selection
mutations
isolated population
the homo genus
all of the fossils
speciation
micro-evolution
adaptation
allele frequencies
normalised selection etc,

Are there some of these things you do not believe in (you said many, not all)? I am not sure what you mean by some of the words in your list since you did not put them in context.

I only disagree with the very final conclusions inferred from such facts. So, I accept probably atleast 90% of the work of evolutionists over the centuries.

Maybe I missed it, but which very final conclusions, inferred from which facts?

earlier mike writes:

I accept that evolution is false (or atleast the major conclusions) because of the little mankind knows about the universe

So you base your conclusions on what we do not know rather than what we do know? What an odd way of looking at things.

You misunderstand

I have to admit that most of what you write I do not understand.

The topic is: Problems with evolution? Submit your questions.

What is your question? As far as I can tell, all you are doing is rambling on about what you believe and what you think other people believe.

Tactimatically speaking, the molecubes are out of alignment. -- S.Valley

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Message 455 of 752 (598601)
01-01-2011 1:56 PM

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01-01-2011 1:20 PM

Re: Another test

So you can only have two genuine, scientific findings.

1. Confirmation.
2. Falsification.

But what happens next, after falsification? Do we just pretend that the thousands of other pieces of evidence no longer exist? Poof...they are gone?

Scientists in the real world try to understand the new findings. "We have new evidence....how does that fit with or change what we already have found?

Falsification may may mean we have to completely scrap a theory or hypothesis, but more often in field as broad as Biology and the Theory of Evolution it means that we have to understand how the new findings change our knowledge of the subject.

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley

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Message 473 of 752 (598622)
01-01-2011 2:47 PM

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01-01-2011 1:45 PM

What did you say?

So, do you have a question about evolution?

mike the wiz writes:

There's that, "we" again. Obviously, if "we" you mean naturalists, evolutionists, secularists, etc....strictly neo Darwinists, or whatever, then the little you know does not dictate that you must accept therefore, that we came from an original common ancestor.

I just meant scientists. I should have asked:

So you base your conclusions on what you do not know rather than what you do know? What an odd way of looking at things.

As for the rest of your response, I admit that my mental powers are inferior to yours. I cannot understand what you are saying.

mike writes:

Therefore, while I accept that adaptation exists, mutations are random sampling errors, a poor explanation of incredible information-levels. (One example is 7 million bibles on one slide). That's the best density possible in nature. It's not only design - it's sheer genius design, far beyond human design.

What? Seven million bibles on one slide? What the heck are you talking about?

The rest seems to be a Gish Gallop but I'm too dense to get your points.

If you are trying to increase my knowledge it went right over my head.

Tactimatically speaking, the molecubes are out of alignment. -- S.Valley

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

You can't build a Time Machine without Weird Optics -- S. Valley