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Blue Jay
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Message 181 of 291 (566194)
06-23-2010 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-23-2010 4:40 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
Hi, Chimp.
Jumped Up Chimpanzee writes:
Good stuff! It's the ones who fall down like they've been shot but then get straight up again and carry on playing that really amuse me.
I think the ones where both players tried to dive at the same time were the best. A round of red cards for everybody, I say!
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Jumped Up Chimpanzee writes:
But seriously, it makes my blood boil that the governing bodies don't do anything to stop this. It's ruining a great sport. They could end this nonsense overnight. I'm not a fan of having refereeing by video replay during the game, it would ruin the flow, but these sort of incidents could be looked at after the game.
They could also double the refereeing staff: one referee on each side of the field, and one line judge on each side at each end (for 4 in total).
That would minimize the chances of referees not seeing real fouls, and the chances of somebody getting away with crap when the referee can't see what's going on.
It would also provide a court of appeals: it could provide some level of oversight for referees who disallow goals over bogus fouls (not that I'm insinuating that this has ever happened, or anything like that).
Of course, as a court of appeals, it could also backfire, so it may have drawbacks, too.

-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)
Darwin loves you.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 182 of 291 (566198)
06-23-2010 2:16 PM


The standings
The teams kicking the most ass are Argentina, the Netherlands, Brazil, Chile, and Uruguay.
Teams staying alive convincingly are Portugal, England, United States, and Paraguay.
The biggest shockers so far are the lackluster, if not disgraceful, performances of the French and Germans (ordinarily two powerhouses).
And the worst team in the history of the sport goes to North Korea, whose goalkeeper, I am convinced, will be promptly executed (if he hasn't been already).

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Huntard
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Message 183 of 291 (566236)
06-23-2010 4:21 PM


The Germans are through as well, and will be facing England in the next round.
That should be quite a game to watch.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 184 of 291 (566261)
06-23-2010 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 179 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2010 12:11 PM


Re: Huge wins
Yay for both my original and my adopted country.
En - ger -lund! Eng - ger - lund! USA! USA!

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Taz
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Message 185 of 291 (566263)
06-23-2010 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 182 by Hyroglyphx
06-23-2010 2:16 PM


Re: The standings
Hyroglyphx writes:
And the worst team in the history of the sport goes to North Korea, whose goalkeeper, I am convinced, will be promptly executed (if he hasn't been already).
I'm pretty sure they will all be disappeared.

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caffeine
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Message 186 of 291 (566299)
06-24-2010 3:50 AM
Reply to: Message 185 by Taz
06-23-2010 8:53 PM


North Korea and the decline of Europe
I'm pretty sure they will all be disappeared.
Quite a few live in Japan, so I reckon they'll be safe.
And they weren't that bad a side. They defended and counter-attacked very well against Brazil, and the first half with Portugal could easily have gone either way. They were just outclassed by a great attacking side in the end.
One interesting thing we realised last night. Of the ten teams who've qualified so far, only three are European. Paraguay are almost certain to qualify, and Chile and Japan both have a good chance as well. At least nine of the last sixteen have always been European in the past, but this looks set to change this year.
The funny thing is, the decline in relative quality of European international teams is mostly the result of the dominance of European club teams. It doesn't matter any more if you're an impoverished African nation with no money and no training facilities, because your entire squad is being trained by and regularly playing against the best in the world in the Premiership or La Liga, and your manager comes from Sweden.

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 187 of 291 (566305)
06-24-2010 6:25 AM
Reply to: Message 181 by Blue Jay
06-23-2010 1:59 PM


Re: Soccer at its best
They could also double the refereeing staff: one referee on each side of the field, and one line judge on each side at each end (for 4 in total).
They tried this in one of the club competitions this year - I think it was the Europa Cup. They had extra officials at each end of the pitch. I don't how much of an improvement it may have been overall, but I saw one match where they still missed things that were very obvious to TV viewers.
I don't think there's an easy answer to it. The nature of the sport means that the ball and players move around the pitch very quickly. It's very difficult for the officials to spot everything on the pitch, and would spoil the game if it were stopped for video analysis. And not everyone agrees with decisions even when they watch the replays several times.
As an aside, one rule I'd like to see changed, and that would make the officials' job just a tiny bit easier, as well as make the game more exciting, is that it should not be possible to be offside directly from a free-kick. It's the only deadball situation where you can be offside, but surely it's the one where you should have most advantage.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 188 of 291 (566327)
06-24-2010 9:21 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by New Cat's Eye
06-22-2010 4:33 PM


Re: Soccer at its best
If you want the propaganda here is soccer at its worst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A&feature=related
sry couldn't get the video up as you did

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caffeine
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Message 189 of 291 (566333)
06-24-2010 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 188 by Artemis Entreri
06-24-2010 9:21 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
What an awful report. "What is taboo in the US simply isn't in Europe" - Nazis are taboo here as well, and there are Americans who prance about waving swastikas. What's different is the connection between neo-nazi movements and some football clubs, which I think comes from the odd way your choice of football club has been a political statement in so many countries in the past. Real Madrid was the team of the fascist dictator Franco, of Spanish unity and conservative values, while Barcelona was the club of the anarchists, leftists and Catalan seperatists. Here in Prague, Sparta are the fascist club; while Bohemians fans wave anti-Nazi flags.
This sort of sectarianism is changing in a lot of places, though. There were plenty of clubs in Britain for whom having either a Catholic or a Protestant player would be unthinkable not so many years ago. Now, no-one bats an eyelid.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 190 of 291 (566335)
06-24-2010 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by Dr Adequate
06-23-2010 6:55 PM


Re: Huge wins
Yay for both my original and my adopted country.
Huh... I always did wonder what your your nationality was. Now I know!

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 191 of 291 (566342)
06-24-2010 10:18 AM
Reply to: Message 189 by caffeine
06-24-2010 9:47 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
Nazis are taboo here as well, and there are Americans who prance about waving swastikas.
You would never see a Nazi Swastika at any major sport event in the United States. We have neo-nazi's, but they are generally driven far underground to rural places. To be at a mainstream sport behaving that way would be suicide.

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from mistaken conviction." — Blaise Pascal

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Jumped Up Chimpanzee
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Message 192 of 291 (566347)
06-24-2010 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 191 by Hyroglyphx
06-24-2010 10:18 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
You would never see a Nazi Swastika at any major sport event in the United States. We have neo-nazi's, but they are generally driven far underground to rural places. To be at a mainstream sport behaving that way would be suicide.
Here's a nice video of the wholesome American sports fans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnB5vqObkLw

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Taz
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Message 193 of 291 (566363)
06-24-2010 11:51 AM


I swear, it's like Italy only learned how to suck cock during their practice for this year's match.

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Huntard
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Message 194 of 291 (566369)
06-24-2010 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 193 by Taz
06-24-2010 11:51 AM


Quite...
The last twenty minutes were well worth watching though, what action.
Anyway, grats Slovakia, and prepare to face the mighty Dutch!

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onifre
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Message 195 of 291 (566405)
06-24-2010 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee
06-24-2010 10:40 AM


Re: Soccer at its best
Here's a nice video of the wholesome American sports fans:
They weren't mad at him for being gay, they were mad at him for acting like a ridiculous asshole. Sooo far less humorous than Borat.
- Oni

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